Thread: New 3M face shield

our storeman did the negotiations with 3M and I only spoke to the rep for a few minutes, maybe we got cheaper than the 1499 that the rep quoted me??

Just to be clear - I like it, and I'd like one. But it's not cheap )

I would suggest the pricing is for different models with differing standards compliance. Looks like a very good option in any case & I particularly like the AS/NZS 1337 High Impact eye and Face protection. Its a step up from the Trend / Purelite options that I have been using for several years.

From 3M's website PPE Safety Solutions : Safety Product Catalog from 3M Australia:#3M

M-106 - Standard: AS/NZS 1716 for Respiratory Protection; AS/NZS 1337 High Impact eye and Face protection
M-306 - Standard: AS/NZS 1716 for Respiratory Protection; AS/NZS 1337 High Impact eye and Face protection; AS/NZS 1801 Type1 Industrial safety Helmet

Yebbut innit just a piece of Polycarb in a flame resistant shroud with some air pipes??

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

Yebbut innit just a piece of Polycarb in a flame resistant shroud with some air pipes??

don't forget the nylon belt and rechargeable battery and blower unit! work won't tell me what they paid for it! but there was no arguments about getting it for me! now to test out if I can bring it home on weekends! fingers crossed!

Tell them you need to clean it weekly, and don't want to waste company time on that, so you're prepared to do it over the weekends on your own time

Originally Posted by Colin62

Tell them you need to clean it weekly, and don't want to waste company time on that, so you're prepared to do it over the weekends on your own time

and recharge the battery! could be a plan!

For me most of this sort of gear is expensive. But the real bug bear is that most if not all have some degree of impact resistance buts not very high given the weight of Oz hardwoods and the potential impact at speed. I agree with Brendan, much of it seems over priced, it may well reflect the small market to some extent, otherwise its 'what the traffic will bear' type of thing.

So for me I have cultivated the habit of keeping out of the way as much as possible. I like Neil's idea of a home build as I have access to a fair amount of poly-carbonate and couple it to the PAFtec.

Currently its a respirator, 2hp DC, and a bloody great big fan

Originally Posted by hughie

. . . . I like Neil's idea of a home build as I have access to a fair amount of poly-carbonate and couple it to the PAFtec. . . . .

I'm up for DIY, perhaps more that most, but for PPE, especially something like a face shield, I would think very carefully before departing from a commercial product. Any DIY manipulation of polycarbonate into a 3D shield is likely to make it brittle so it is most unlikely that it will be as strong as a shield such as those from say Armadillo. The commercial shields are molded, stress relieved, and tested to standards and levels using gear that DIY just don't have access. My TS guard (which I don't think of it as a guard but more of a dust hood) is made out of polycarbonate heated and bent into a trapezoidal box. When it accidentally dropped onto the spinning TS blade it shattered at the corners where it had been heated and bent. I replaced the shattered guard with a thinner piece of PC that had been cold bent and that has held up pretty well even though it has several nicks and one 50 mm cut, and a chip out of the corner.

As someone who's done lots of dust testing (and has recently developed asthma) I still think that throwing $100's of 1000's at face filters before a decent DC system is installed is the wrong way around. I can work at my lathe with big chips flying all over the place but the fine dust meter shows that the concentration at my head level is the same as the natural background dust levels outside my shed. No mask, no fans to spread the fine dust around, just a 3HP DC with a bell mouth hood about 100 mm from the back of the work. OK, I do mainly small spindle work and its not going to be as effective for those of you that turn big stuff but for folks turning small stuff especially pens this method is definitely the way to go. FWIW I do have a Triton full face mask and do use it but only about 3/4 times are year. It's also very useful for wasp nest cleanup

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Any DIY manipulation of polycarbonate into a 3D shield is likely to make it brittle so it is most unlikely that it will be as strong as a shield such as those from say Armadillo. The commercial shields are molded, stress relieved, and tested to standards and levels using gear that DIY just don't have access.

I actually have done for a living and still a bit of it from time to time. But its really a case of getting around to it with everything else on the go as well.

Originally Posted by hughie

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I actually have done for a living and still a bit of it from time to time. But its really a case of getting around to it with everything else on the go as well.

Love to see a WIP when you do it.

Gents
I used on evaporative Airconditioner, fashioned a collecter from the lid of a rubbish bin, which then directs the cool, moist air into three lengths of 50mm pool hose into a spray painters hood with an impact resistant visor. I use the scientific method of testing for inhaled dust (Jarrah) after a 3-4 hour session whenI blow my nose, all green (I think that is good, disgusting, but good).
Have used this system now for a bout 5 years, cost me $50.
In summer, I remove the russbish bin lid collector which is held in place by two bungy cord, and the workshop is air conditioned as well.
Has been described as a MacGyver arrangement, but works for me
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