Thread: Two new bowls

As usual the work is excellent but gunna have to deduct points for the flat finish

Hi Jim,
I see what you mean about the second bowl but I am sure you're well on the way to sorting it out as for the first bowl when you say comercial banding I presume you mean pre made flat banding for inlaying how did you get it around the bowl,the face you have it on looks to be inclined not square is this correct or an illusion if so how do you make it work. As always you have done an excellent job on these.
With admiration regards Rod.

Originally Posted by Rod Gilbert

Hi Jim,
as for the first bowl when you say comercial banding I presume you mean pre made flat banding for inlaying how did you get it around the bowl,the face you have it on looks to be inclined not square is this correct or an illusion if so how do you make it work. Rod.

Hi Rod, For the past few years I have made my own veneer bandings. I still have some of the commercially made bandings left, the banding used on this bowl best suited the oak, in my opinion. The edge that has the banding fitted is in not inclined but square to the bowl top. It is fitted to a shallow groove.

Jim

I am usually not a fan of segmented turning but I have to admit your bowl is different and I quite like it.

Originally Posted by powderpost

Hi Rod, For the past few years I have made my own veneer bandings. I still have some of the commercially made bandings left, the banding used on this bowl best suited the oak, in my opinion. The edge that has the banding fitted is in not inclined but square to the bowl top. It is fitted to a shallow groove.

Jim

G'day Jim.

I too have some of the commercially manufactured veneer bandings and have experimented in the past with fitting them to the rims of a couple of bowls. In my limited experience with this I have bumped into 2 problems.

1. Unless the bowl rim is almost vertical at the band location it's virtually impossible to get the banding to seat nicely or to sit flat in the groove. Jim will know what I mean, but to others trying to picture this, try wrapping a bit of that plastic banding tape around a sphere and trying to get it to sit flat on the surface once you move it away from the centre. I see your note that the band location on your bowl is square/perpendicular to the top and therefore doesn't require a "splayed" installation, but I'm wondering if there's a way to accommodate a non-perpendicular installation?
2. There's always a problem with trying to align the pattern on the band where the 2 ends meet. Unless you fluke the exact bowl circumference to suit the pattern layout you end with a mismatched joint. Maybe you can engineer the circumference to suit?

Have you encountered these issues as well, and if so, found a way to overcome?

Wayne

I have seen these done before but not given it much thought of giving it a go. Maybe when I have more time. Looks really nice and a shine will bring out the banding.

Originally Posted by Hardenfast

....There's always a problem with trying to align the pattern on the band where the 2 ends meet. Unless you fluke the exact bowl circumference to suit the pattern layout you end with a mismatched joint. Maybe you can engineer the circumference to suit?.....

I do have one other though about the banding and that it to cut it and then add spaces of plain wood between the cuts.

Both look good to me Jim.
Ted

Nice work Jim

Beautiful, especially the second one

Very nice jim, they both look great, well done

look great.

Originally Posted by Hardenfast

G'day Jim.

I too have some of the commercially manufactured veneer bandings and have experimented in the past with fitting them to the rims of a couple of bowls. In my limited experience with this I have bumped into 2 problems.

1. Unless the bowl rim is almost vertical at the band location it's virtually impossible to get the banding to seat nicely or to sit flat in the groove. Jim will know what I mean, but to others trying to picture this, try wrapping a bit of that plastic banding tape around a sphere and trying to get it to sit flat on the surface once you move it away from the centre. I see your note that the band location on your bowl is square/perpendicular to the top and therefore doesn't require a "splayed" installation, but I'm wondering if there's a way to accommodate a non-perpendicular installation?
2. There's always a problem with trying to align the pattern on the band where the 2 ends meet. Unless you fluke the exact bowl circumference to suit the pattern layout you end with a mismatched joint. Maybe you can engineer the circumference to suit?

Have you encountered these issues as well, and if so, found a way to overcome?

Wayne

Hi Wayne, I did try to fit banding to a sloping surface by "massaging" one edge to lengthen it. The effect wasn't worth the effort. I am toying with the idea of re-designing a batch of bandings. That won't happen over night but it will happen. .

Getting he ends to match up is not really a problem. I simply make the groove a tad deeper until the pattern matches. That can be a problem, depending on how often the pattern is repeated. The joint in the silky oak bowl was cut at 45 degrees, to match the pattern.

More experimenting is needed. I am finding that each time I walk past a calender, two pages fall off.. .

Jim

Jim,
Beautiful work as always, but that is what we expect from a master woodturner.

Congratulations on these powderpost. The second one I particularly like. Is there a good text for this style of segmented turning that may enlighten me as to how it or something similar could be attempted?

Originally Posted by Mobyturns

Jim,
Beautiful work as always, but that is what we expect from a master woodturner.