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    Default Ci1 Easy Rougher Review by Cliff.

    I broke mine!

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    Bugga

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    And they say I am rough.

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    I guess I had better tell the story.

    In case you didn't read it elsewhere, I had bought a couple of the tips & reviewed them on my own toolholder.
    Craig from Easy Wood Tools read my review & offered me a complete tool to review.
    I just had to pay the freight.
    I have had it for almost 2 weeks now, it is not bad on wet Hoop Pine, I have done 5 or 6 bowls now but I said I would give it a proper work out with something a bit harder.

    I picked a couple of bits of unknown fire wood & 'pruned' them with the chain saw & stuck a hole in the top with a large forstner bit to fit my shark jaws.
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    The first bit in the left was still a bit damp inside & the rougher worked very well.
    I cleaned it up with a shear scrape before I took the next pic.

    Looking good so far.
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    Nice octogon and hexagon Cliff. Did you mark those out with your compass?

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    I turned it around & started on the top & that is when I had my first catch.

    The red ring show where it caught.
    This one didn't break the tool; the foot gave way.
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    I'm not a turner Cliff but is that a lot of material to be taking off in one hit?
    Or is that a feature of this tool? i.e fast shaping.

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    I stuck it back on the shark jaws & cleaned up the foot & turned it round again.
    This time I didn't bother with the shear scrape... just in case.
    The piece was quiet damp inside so I was going to have to remount it again after it had dried to finish it so I'll give it another skim before I sand it.
    I flipped it over again & this time I didn't go at it so hard.
    I hollowed it out & I did give the inside a quick shear scrape to clean up some of the torn grain.
    The almost finished (roughed) item. I'll let it dry out & then I'll remount it to finish it.
    I'm happy with it, the tool worked as advertised but like all tools, if you push it the wrong way, it will bite.
    Cliff.
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    I've noticed (in my wide and varied experience, ) that scrapers can catch in a real big way on platers. Not the foolproof fall back tool that they seem. Does the rougher seem to work better on spindel work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCArcher View Post
    I'm not a turner Cliff but is that a lot of material to be taking off in one hit?
    Or is that a feature of this tool? i.e fast shaping.
    It will take a lot off in one hit & too be fair, in this case, the foot failed, not the tool.

    When I had the blank the other way around with a really good grip on the shark jaws, I was taking even more in one bite.... that is where I went wrong on the next piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tea lady View Post
    I've noticed (in my wide and varied experience, ) that scrapers can catch in a real big way on platers. Not the foolproof fall back tool that they seem. Does the rougher seem to work better on spindel work?
    I haven't tried it on spindle work yet, I had 3 blanks in the box on the floor but I broke it before I got to them

    The Mina reason that a scraper will catch on any work is if it is presented at the wrong angle &/or the wrong height on the revolving blank.

    It can also 'bite' if the blank has uneven density IE, a knot or a projection.
    In the case above, the top of the blank was uneven so it was taking a bigger bite on one side of the blank than the other.

    On the next piece, it got hit by a projection.
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    The next piece was dryer & not at all round.

    The tool was cutting very well & I was taking very large cuts until it dropped off one of the uneven sides into an air gap (red arrow) & got 'whacked' by the next wing (red ring) coming down.

    BANG!
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    Just to show that bit of wood that it wasn't going to win that easy, I pulled out my good old HT HS1 & finished roughing it out.
    I had a lawn to mow so I'll remount it & finish it at a later date too.
    Cliff.
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    How much length did you have overhanging the toolrest?

    I understand it breaking if the tool had done a and broke on landing on a footpath on t'other side of a highway, but I gather it broke in your hand?

    Looking at the pix, it appears that the shaft wasn't inserted anywhere near deeply enough into the handle for the sort of strain it's should be able to cope with. Disappointing!
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