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    Bill, I hope this helps and gives you some ideas.

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    Default Good one - Thanks

    Thanks ,

    Thats a handy tip about coming in below centre with the hacksaw blade tool.

    Was trying a few things this morning and making a right mess.

    Will have another crack this evening.

    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    Bill, I hope this helps and gives you some ideas.

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    Good one

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    Quote Originally Posted by steamingbill View Post

    a) made in a factory with a gigantic form tool that did the whole thing at once ?

    b) Or maybe a person on a lathe of some sort making 100 of these a day and paid $2 per week ?

    c) Other ?
    I saw both A and C in YouTube videos. Do you think I can find them now!

    With A, they had form cutters almost exactly the same as used on a spindle moulder. An arm held a block of wood, spun it up and in went another arm with the rotating moulder. Both seed to be oposing spinning at 20k rpm so the forces must have been amazing. Anyway, a millionth of a second and it was spat out and another one on.

    Some dude just bands awed off the ends and used a belt like sander to tidy it up. Toss it into a box. They didn't show this dudes face though....it probably looked miserable.

    With B, they had a pantoarm(?) that read off a blank with a bit on the end. Did 99% and a guy touched it up with sandpaper and sprayed it while on the lathe. Must have been NC, for about 3 seconds later he pulled it off and put it on a pile

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    Quote Originally Posted by powderpost View Post
    Robert Sorby make a similar tool as well.

    A little ? while back I had a job replicating small beads. I ground a 6mm spindle gouge at about 45 degrees but square, like a parting tool, this was then turned upside down with the flute underneath on the tool rest. It worked very well making exactly the same size beads nicely semicircular in shape.

    Jim
    I have a number of these tools from 3mm to 10mm.

    I found a 8mm P&N spindle gouge, ground like Jim described, is ideal for scraping a ring foot on a bowl or platter.

    My method to do this is gentle pressure while raising and lowering the handle,
    This is done a number of times, right on the centre line of the diameter.
    This gentle action is sort of like going over centre and back again.
    Doing it this way seems to put less pressure on the wood, resulting in less tear out.
    There is very little pressure on the tool, in fact none of my bead cutters has a handle on them.
    If you are going to try this the tool rest should be as close as possible to the work.
    Keep in mind that this is being used on bottom of the foot, which is usually side grain.
    I usually turn a number beads on the base, and with a parting tool, recess any areas between the beads.
    The outside or largest bead should be proud of the rest of the foot so that the piece sits on this bead to prevent rocking.

    Of course as Jim said they also work well on between centre work. better in harder wood of course.

    With my typing speed it would have been quicker to go and take some photos.

    If I catch up with Brendan maybe he could video the process?

    Cheers

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    Started considering the knights today

    found this thread - good idea make some sort of mushroom and cut away most of the cap.

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/tur...t-rough-25927/

    and this page

    http://www.chessspy.com/articles/Lat...%20Knights.pdf - bottom of 2nd page

    and have seen some great photos of carved knights but cannot find the best one again, have trawled through my history, no luck.

    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    Gooday Bill. Henry Taylor make a fluted parting tool. Parting & Beading Tools

    Ken Wraight uses one for that pupose. The Sorby equivalent is not sharp enough on the edges to leave a good cut.

    When I can find my camera I will show you a cheat that I use for doing fine beads.
    Bet it's in one of those new kitchen cabinets - all you have to do is remember which one.

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    Good vid .

    FWIW with a formed beading tool in scraping presentation I've found that where possible a little side to side swing on the end of the handle as you go in leaves a cleaner finish. Will leave it up to the theorists to explain why that might be.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Just out of interest I got out the Sorby fluted parting tool in the kit.

    IMO there's not enough curve in the 'flute' to make a decent bead. Such flute as there is, is not centred. That means there's a shoulder on one side. That could be dealt with by lapping; in fact the milling marks on both sides are gross and need work in order to cut cleanly as is claimed for this design in parting mode.

    Mostly I've found Sorbys to be well finished.
    Cheers, Ern

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    I was being tactful about the Sorby.

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    I made my own 3mm fluted parting tool with a bit of 3mm HSS and a diamond needle file. I've never tried it on very large turnings, but for small things like lace bobbing it works very well.
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