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    Default Record Coronet No 3 Lathe

    Hi Guys, thsi is my first attempt at forums so I hope I get it right.
    I have a 20 yr old No. 3 Coronet which I've had since new but through me moving around a lot, has not had a lot of use, however, I'm having trouble with the bearing. It has slop in it, up and down not in out. I no longer have the manual and have e.mailed Record for help but have not heard so far.

    If I tighten up the bearing as per my understanding until it won't turn and then back it off the slack goes out of it but then it makes an awful row. If I back it off further it runs sweetly but the slop comes back. I'm nervous at the thought of trying to strip it down and would appreciate any words of wisdom and if anyone knows of someone here in Perth WA who can help either look at it or service it, that'd be great. Thanks, Ham.

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    Ham, might be able to dig out my manual if you don't mind waiting until tomorrow. Will have a look round for it tomorrow.

    Ray

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    i think they are a phos bronze bearing that have to be oiled .???
    'If the enemy is in range, so are you.'

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    Welcome Ham, as Texx stated, they have a phosphorus bronze bearing, which needs to be oiled and adjusted periodically to keep it running smoothly. I too have had a CL3/36 since new(1990), and yes I too have "misplaced" my manual. I would also like to be reminded of the correct sequence of adjusting the bearings as I have tried to adjust them many times over the years, yet now not only still end up with slack resulting in vibration, etc, but I am needing to fill up the oil reservoir every five min or less if I run it over 1850rpm. It just seems to leak straight out. Please help us Ray!
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    Is this the model?
    Cheers,
    Jim
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    Default No 3 Lathe Bearing

    Thanks Guys, that was quick. Ray any help you can offer, or anyone else for that matter, is greatfully received. It's definintely a bronze bearing but I worry that I've let it dry out in the years it hasn't been used and damaged the bearing, even though I use oil frequently when turning.
    Ham.

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    Default Record 3

    Thanks, Jim, it appears to be alater model. Mine has the on/off switch on a seperate cable and no dust cap at the back of the spindle but I think the bearing and adjustment are the same, so thank you, that's great.
    Ham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ham View Post
    Thanks, Jim, it appears to be a later model. Mine has the on/off switch on a seperate cable and no dust cap at the back of the spindle but I think the bearing and adjustment are the same, so thank you, that's great.
    Ham.
    Thanx
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    What you may well find that Record ran with the same bearing system for many years. So I would look at the manual and compare the pics etc and then have a go at adjustment.

    If your bearings are using heaps of oil then maybe its [a] poor adjustment, or [b] they are stuffed.

    With this sort of bearing minor adjustments are required, so what ever you do, do so slowly or with small increments, test as you go. Adjust then spin the shaft to test for ease of movement.

    The type of oil is important, as too thin is as bad as too thick. But not as bad as no oil, I must admit

    All else fails pull the bearing apart taking careful note on how it comes apart. [ drawings, take pics etc ] They are at the end of the day a very simple bearing, far from rocket science.

    If you can change a tyre, then this bearing should not pose a major problem for you.
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    Unfortunately the manual was not in the folder with all the other manuals. I will keep looking though

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    Thanks Hughie and Ray. Thanks to Jim's manual I feel confidant that I now have adjusted the bearing as well as I can. There is still movement side to side, ie, if I have a chuck on the spindle I am able to get some movement, probably a mm, by pulling the chuck toward me. I'm not sure whether this is what causes the slightly out of round and the subsequent tearing requiring bucket loads of sanding or whether it's just my poor skills. I'll need to do a another turning course when I can I think.

    Thanks everybody for your words of wisdom. H.

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    When I read this thread yesterday, it reminded me mine was due for adjustment. So down to the shed I went and adjusted as per the link that Jim put up there, thanks Jim.

    Ham, yours sounds like there is something wrong, 1mm play is very excessive. With mine adjusted up, there is no movement at all (maybe minute if I put a dial gauge on it )
    I would be pulling the shaft out and inspecting the bearings, are you sure the one on the outboard end isnt shot ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironwood View Post
    When I read this thread yesterday, it reminded me mine was due for adjustment. So down to the shed I went and adjusted as per the link that Jim put up there, thanks Jim.
    Ham, yours sounds like there is something wrong, 1mm play is very excessive. With mine adjusted up, there is no movement at all (maybe minute if I put a dial gauge on it )
    I would be pulling the shaft out and inspecting the bearings, are you sure the one on the outboard end isnt shot ?
    You're welcome. I've had plenty of help myself on these forums.
    I agree that the bearing on Ham's lathe sounds shot.
    Cheers,
    Jim

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    Mmm, ok, thanks Guys, now that's a daunting thought. If I pull it out and find it is stuffed, any idea how easy it is to replace it, do I order from Record in England? I have to wonder as I'm not sure of the cost, whether it would be cheaper to buy a newer lathe?? I'm probably jumping the gun, but now that I finally have the lathe up and running, the thought of it being down for a long period, well!.

    H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ham View Post
    Mmm, ok, thanks Guys, now that's a daunting thought. If I pull it out and find it is stuffed, any idea how easy it is to replace it, do I order from Record in England? I have to wonder as I'm not sure of the cost, whether it would be cheaper to buy a newer lathe?? I'm probably jumping the gun, but now that I finally have the lathe up and running, the thought of it being down for a long period, well!.

    H.
    Get on to the Record Power website and ask them the cost and time needed for delivery. They aren't bad at responding and the dollar is pretty strong at the moment..
    Cheers,
    Jim

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