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    Default Turning shed layout

    Can anyone assist with laying out a turning shed. I have 4 x 8 metres, windows 2 sides, north and east. Are there any "rules'. I have good natural light and overhead lights and 2 other benches. If you have 2 lathes, is a side by side layout preferred to a church pew layout?

    Secondly, I am thinking about a samll lathe to start with. Is the JET brand well regarded. I figured I would start with a 600 mm bed length model and do as much as I could on that before investing in a larger lathe.

    Many thanks


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    One bit of advice I can give you is that if you can't put the lathe in a position that faces the door so you can see if anybody comes into the shed, put a big mirror on the wall that you face.
    Having somebody 'sneak' up on you while you work can be a bit... unnerving.

    Before you bolt stuff down, try it out a bit so you can move it around.

    Work out where most of your chips fly & don't put an open bench or flat surface there.
    Cliff.
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    Good advice, Cliff.

    I also suggest that you do not put the lathe under the window - at least not if the sunlight comes in. Too many variables with light / shadows etc.

    Good luck with it. The perfect turning space is yet to be found.

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    c'mon
    the perfect turning space is where you happen to be turnin at any given point in time
    regards
    Nick
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    Hereward,
    if you have the space , place the lathes so that you stand with your back to the wall ( give enough working room).
    That way you can see the door , and seeing as most of the chips and shavings are going to head your way , do not position cupboards ,shelves , racks etc on that section of the wall . If you have a swivel head lathe , take that fallout area into consideration too.
    Plain wall , plain floor easy to sweep up
    Put double power points on the wall , at lathe height , at both ends of the lathe .
    And maybe some of those ones that hang down from the rafters , out towards the center of the workshop.
    Ya can't have too many power sockets in a shed

    Welcome to the madhouse

    Jock

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    Plenty of advice and photo's here.
    To grow old is inevitable.... To grow up is optional

    Confidence, the feeling you have before you fully understand the situation.

    What could possibly go wrong.

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    Default The Shed.

    Hi hereward,
    I agree at what Cliff & Jefferson have said. I have so many dents in the roof, because of people entering the Garage, & all of a sudden you see them. Bump.
    Never put you lathe under a wall window, as the light comes in on the wrong side of your work, & it is sometimes hard to see what you are doing,
    Yes, a Clean wall behind is a good idea, as the shavings are all in the one spot.
    Don't forget to make a Duk Board with slots in it to allow the shaving to go through to the floor.
    Mine is 100mm. off the floor, & I have never Fallen or Tripped off it either.
    NO carpet, NO matting, but a wooden Duk Board.
    NO Fluoro lighting to turn by either.
    Incandescent only, as I have 2, 120Watters & a 60W on a double arm to turn by.

    Regards,
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    That's a good sized space. You'll be chasing all over to sweep up the chips so consider putting a sliding shower curtain around the business end of each lathe.

    Also consider where the dusty and pipes will run in relation to the lathes and the bandsaw that odds are you'll end up buying too (if not already).

    I have no trouble with 2 32w fluoro's above the lathe and a tungsten globe in a desk lamp for close lighting (except with Blackwood sometimes which does psychedelic strobing).
    Cheers, Ern

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    Default Fluoro's

    Hi Ern,
    It is a well known fact amongst Woodturners that you don't use Fluoro's for that very reason.
    If you buy 120W Flood lights, & they don't cost that much to run, they are better for the Eyes, & a better light to see your work with.
    I'm not to sure but they have a special rating on the box as to the using Watts eg. 80W.?
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    In nearly 10 years of turning under fluoro's issatree I've had the strobe effect only twice and only with a particular chatoyant version of blackwood.

    Edit: there was also tungsten on at the same time.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Hereward,
    Jet lathes are well regarded in the U.S., especially the "mini" and the 1642. I have had the latter for about 4 years and like it well enough, would buy it again. Prices have gone up a lot since I bought mine.
    Richard in Wimberley

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    Well my new shed layout will be without windows in the walls for a couple of reasons. One it saves wall space and its less costly. I will be having skylights, 4 in all. I prefer over head light for general lighting.
    Running around the walls at around cornice level will be 100m [4''] PVC ducting with droppers for each of the three lathes and one for the band saw. Each dropper be about 1.5m and have a valve to shut off when not required. From 1-1.5m of flexible hose to the lathes etc.
    The dusty will be outside under a large covered porch area using water proof shade cloth. This area also double as a storage area and with the shade cloth it will have good lighting during the day. With the dusty outside it gives me more room and less noise inside. But the downside is that it will also suck out any heating and cooling that I may have.
    I plan to fit a floor level vent for ease of clean up for those rare moments of fanatical housekeeping
    As Ern has mentioned screens to control the flow of chip etc around the workshop.I will have some screening,it will be down to about knee level so I can run that infrequent broom around with too much trouble. This will also allow for general dust extraction across the whole workshop. Some thing I will install after the screening set up is sorted out.
    Lighting as mentioned else where, flouros above each lathe longitudinally and some spotlights at head and tail stocks etc.
    Have not decided whether to run the lathes along the wall or have them out on an angle.On the angle does make it easier to shovel out the chips etc.
    Rubbish removal needs to addressed even if we don't get around to it very often or do it as well as we should perhaps.No sense in making a distasteful chore harder by the lack of planning.

    Because of the number of lathes and the shape of the shed, which is governed by its location. I wont be able to have each lathe facing the door. But thats life.
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    hughie,
    If the dusty is going to be outside, will you be having a return air vent or duct to allow fresh air in from the outside to replace the air evacuated by the dusty?
    Richard in Wimberley

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    Id be inclined to build a wall to halve the work space, lathe in the center of one and storage in the other... be cheaper to heat and cool too.

    You could put double or concertina doors in the wall to allow a bit more space for other shed activity's.
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    At the moment I am trialing two of my lathes back to back with a cover over the one I am not using. This means I am using one power point and one dust inlet for both and one area to clean.

    The dust shute is mounted on the pedestal from an old fan so it is easy to position to suit which ever lathe I want to use.

    Ross

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