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12th February 2018, 08:01 PM #16
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12th February 2018, 08:21 PM #17SENIOR MEMBER
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Just try a search on Youtube for Stewart Batty, and Allan Batty while your at it. Phil
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12th February 2018, 09:47 PM #18New Member
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Try this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMVGankeK0I
I think vimeo link is shown in this youtube. Good stuff!!
I have watched this 4 or five times ( no kidding ) and they have been a great help to me.
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13th February 2018, 02:51 AM #19GOLD MEMBER
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my first bowl was done whilst I had a book open behind the lathe, id done quite a lot of successful spindle turning before I attempted a bowl, which still amazes me as the chuck wouldn't seat properly and wobbled, anyway im drifting, the book I was referring to was this book (much to my stupidity my local library used to sell old boos that never got borrowed, but as I kept borrowing it, it never came on sale).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Two-One-Woo.../dp/1840922435
Anyway its a good book, and shows lots of techniques.
Lastly, i wouldn't use pine for a waste block (unless being held by a chuck, even then I'd be nervous), it splits too easily. anyway many might disagree with me.
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13th February 2018, 07:44 PM #20New Member
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Been there, Done that..
1. Always wear a face-shield and safety glasses. Voice of experience. I use and Armadillo face-shield. ( I cleaned the front of the shield , then put on a 7" tablet screen protector,: the viewing area is protected and the screen protector can be easily replaced.
2. I also wear an "Air-Shield" dust mask ( from carbitec )
3. Use sharp tools. To sharpen a blunt tool should only take a couple of seconds on a grinder. You are not reshaping the tool, just refreshing the edge, zip-zip any your done. For $20 I made a set of gigs to fir may 35 year old 6" bench grinder.
4. I learned a lot from watching Stewart Batty, he seemed to tale sense to me. I made up a word doc on the seven fundamentals ( now pdf ) attached.
5. My biggest problem was speed, I was running far to slow. See speed charts.Speed chart.jpg
6. I invested in a vicmarc VM-100. Cost more than my GMC belt driven 4 speed lathe, but well worth it. As for glue blocks, I only used hardwood. Not Plywood ( voice of experience.) and not pine. I made a 3" faceplate out of a bolt welded to a piece of 5mm. plate with 3 screw holes and have not had any problems so far.P1010516.JPGP1010517.JPG
7. I prefer pva glue, with 24 hr. setting time for glue blocks.
I have made a number of gigs ( i live in a small country town 420 kms from Adelaide ) so rely on online ordering.
I hope this helps. I have had good support from
Timberbits - Pen Turning & Woodworking
https://www.cwsonline.com.au/index.html
Regards Tony A. ( Lidcombe )
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14th February 2018, 01:39 PM #21
Yeah, I have a face shield and glasses on always, plus a dust mask (the replaceable filter variety, not powered), very aware of safety as I'm not that confident and occasionally have my 1-year-old daughter and 4-year-old son walking around my legs. Yes, I stop working when they come within 10 metres. I do enjoy having them around though and have made sure they're always protected too. My boy loves putting on his safety glasses and ear muffs. I let him watch and join in on the stuff I'm comfortable with but that doesn't include the lathe yet.
Thanks for the PDF Lidcombe, I'll definitely check out Stewart Batty too. Sadly this week and next all my spare time is already entirely booked out, so it's probably a fortnight before I get back to the lathe and then a week later I'm traveling for 3 weeks. 1 week of woodwork in 6 is no good, going to need extended therapy at the end.
I will toss the pine sacrificial block away then. I know how to sharpen butt chisels with a stone and wet and dry sandpaper but I have no experience doing that with gouges and it seems impractical to say the least. I also don't have a bench grinder at the moment. I wonder would the face of a grinding wheel on a 4" grinder work?
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14th February 2018, 03:05 PM #22New Member
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There seems to be several disparaging comments about the help that might be available from the members of a Men's Shed. Although woodwork is a popular activity in a lot of Men's Shed and a lot of guys get a lot of pleasure from it, the main reason for a "shed" is to offer a place where men can get together in an environment that is conducive to the values that are peculiarly male. You may or may not find an expert in the activity you are interested in, you may only find another enthusiastic novice who is willing to share the learning experience,But if one of you can make a cup of coffee then that's what a shed is all about. You want a place where there is a professional teacher- Try TAFE
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16th February 2018, 11:27 PM #23Intermediate Member
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There is some good advice so far. I have found nobody is 100 per cent right. Spend some money/time at library and access publications by acknowledged experts. Two expat poms I have found and followed that have differences but have influenced me in my convictions and attitudes to turning are available at most good library. . Richard raffin, down to earth and mike darlow a purest. Both worth the time and consideration to influence your approach to turning. If you are lucky enough to find someone at a mens shed who has been influenced by these men you have it made. Do the spindle thing first you should not stuff up a lot of bowls once you learn to make a dead straight stick with a skew. Regards and best wishes.
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17th February 2018, 06:39 AM #24
It has been mention before and I think it needs to be said again start turning between centers. One small length of a square piece of wood(about 50 x 50 mm) in the lathe will allow you to get the feel for most wood turning chisels. Turn this to a round piece and continue until there is nothing but shavings and a piece that is 10mm thick.
Normally catches occur when the edge or point of a chisel is in the turning wood before the bevel touches the wood. I got heaps of these catches when I first started on these disposal pieces of wood. Some not expected and some that I wanted to see what would happen when I got down to a very thin piece of wood. Each time I would stop the lathe and try to figure out what I did wrong.
The first piece that I ended up making was a snow man. It was not very good as the proportions were out and the hat rim was very thin. It just meant that I needed to make another one until I got it looking ok. Then once I got one that looked fine I made more to see if I could repeat so that they looked the same. I will admit that I was sad that I was not able to get them looking similar but that just meant I needed more time on the lathe.
One other thing to mention is with the face plate, don't give up on that. I have used glue blocks to hold pieces on the lathe but not with hot glue. I used normal glue as I can always part or turn off the glue block.
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22nd February 2018, 10:14 AM #25
So last night I decided I would just finish the outside and chalk it down to experience but once I polished it I changed my mind as I really like it. So I've decided to take it off and carve the inside, anyway here are some pictures of the outside.
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22nd February 2018, 12:12 PM #26Senior Member
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As long as you're having fun (safely) stick with it! Even if you do stuff it up you will have learned heaps (some good, some bad - but all valuable lessons).
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22nd February 2018, 12:40 PM #27
Good that you are concious of safety. My kifs ate 6, 8 & 9. I alkow them in when I turn but try to make them aware of the 'danger zone' and how that changes with the size of what I am turning. I keep my kids out of the firing line shoukd a piece explode. So far this has never happened with them in the room and I have only had two things ley go that mught have caused injury shoyld someone have been in the way (2 bromen windows lol)
As you get more confident in your abilities you may let your kids closer, thats your call.
DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art
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24th February 2018, 10:46 AM #28New Member
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Well done. Beautiful finish. What timber, what finish?
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24th February 2018, 11:31 AM #29
It's Tasmanian Blackwood and I used Organoil wax & polish, it's a beeswax and citrus oil mixture.
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