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5th May 2018, 02:57 PM #1Intermediate Member
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Zero thickness shim glue???
In final stages of setting up my Nova Comet 2 lathe. Nova doesn't have a steady rest for it (major omission Nova!), so I've been grinding a larger cast-iron one to fit the ways. Got it nicely into the lathe rails, to find that the original base is not flat! (Grrrr... ). For reference, it's this Hafco one from Machinery House: https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/W378
Thanks to learning about the wonders of aluminium cans in another thread, I've found one slice of a soft-drink can at one corner of the base is a perfect shim. But what can I glue it with (and how) so that the layer of glue doesn't make it too thick?
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5th May 2018, 03:13 PM #2.
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Any super glue should be OK. If you have digital calipers you can do a practice run using two piece of Al can and then measure the thickness before and after glue.
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5th May 2018, 03:23 PM #3Intermediate Member
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Thanks Bob. Any tips on technique to get complete coverage but thin and even on the shim?
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5th May 2018, 05:23 PM #5Intermediate Member
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None of the super glues have a "longer set time", it seems. If I'm going for an epoxy, what is a commonly available one with low viscosity (i.e. thin and runny)?
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Just looked up West System glues. Seems they only make large bottles of it. I just need one of the tiny packs from Bunnings, but I don't know which one - website doesn't detail viscosity.
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5th May 2018, 08:15 PM #9Intermediate Member
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Just submitted an "ask the expert" question on the Selley's site. I'll post the answer.
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5th May 2018, 10:35 PM #10Woodworking mechanic
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Z-Poxy is very thin.
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Soft drink cans IIRC have a very thin layer of plastic on the inside to protect the metal from the acid in the soft drink. If you remove it you can add back that thickness of epoxy. Light sandpaper or maybe acetone/dry cleaning fluid might work.
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Thanks RobbieB, that's a terrific tip. Probably good to sand anyway to aid glue grip.
Lappa, thank you. There's a range of Z-poxy - https://www.zapglue.com/epoxy-resins Most of them are called gap-fillers which doesn't suggest thinness to me, and the only one that is called a gap-filler doesn't seem great for metal. Which one have you experienced as "thin"?
Can an low viscosity epoxy be used thinly and also as a gap filler? So many of the epoxy glues are called gap fillers I'm wondering if some of them have this flexibility, and if so, which ones.
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Found a Q&A on Amazon for Z-poxy 15 min epoxy:
is the resin part thick almost like jello consistancy or thin like water
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Both parts are an equally "gel-like" consistency. Not runny at all. Hope that helps.
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I bet there would be a loctite product that is suitable, and available from a local industrial supplier.
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Thanks Oddy. Had a look at the Loctite stuff, and I think I may have found the answer. Loctite Studlock 263:
Loctite Threadlocker 263
Designed to bond metal with a thin layer of glue. Sets in 10 mins, which gives me time to position carefully and wipe edges. For threads rather than flat surfaces, so maybe not the strongest, but I can take care to lift the lathe steady rather than slide it (good for not abrading the ways anyway) and then the bond doesn't need to be too strong.
Anyone had experience using this stuff?
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