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  1. #1
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    Default a box with a drop down lid in lacewood

    I have started a new box using lacewood.
    This time I intend to have a drop down lid which has had rebates prepared prior to cutting off the lid from the bottom portion of the box.
    Freehand sketch below, I have not seen a box prepared previously in this manner but other members might tell me it is old hat. ..






    Picture of the 36” x 4 ½” 12mm prepared lacewood.






    Picture showing rebates done on router.
    A rebate on lip of lid. Not a dado
    A rebate in preparation for drop on lid (a dado)
    A rebate to insert base (not a dado)





    Box glued up and ready for a veneered lid to be inserted. ( the base will be inserted when lid cut off at a later time.





    The tablesaw will cut into the box 6mm deep from the front sides just below the dado created inside. Hopefully the cuts will line up and the lid will then drop down on to the lower box section.
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    Looks good, very nice piece of wood. How was the routing? Beefwood tends to tear slightly and you have to be careful.
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    No problem with the routing but I did most probably 4 passes to get down to the depth perhaps that is why it went OK.
    woody U.K.

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    Make sure when cutting the lid off with the saw that

    1) you make sure the bottom is in to stop the box twisting

    2) you first cut opposite sides then put in spacers & tape them in to stop the lid from grabing the saw blade or make the cut .5 mm shallower then use a sharp blade to to divide the box the carefully clean the edges up

    As I use a very simular process to make my boxes
    have a play with some scrap first & you then get to make a mistake or two & not wreck that beautiful timber

    regards Michael

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    Thanks Michael, that sounds some very sensible advice.
    woody U.K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coffenup View Post
    make the cut .5 mm shallower then use a sharp blade to to divide the box the carefully clean the edges up
    Thats the method I prefer to use.
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    Bit late now, but I always cut the inside slot before cutting the sides to length. Also, keep a bit of scrap so you can see exactly where and how deep the slot is.
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    Thanks above. I wished I had known of that one Alexs, I am having unpleasant dreams at the present time. Got to fit a lid yet so perhaps I can cobble something together to match the inside slot before its closed up.
    woody U.K.

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    OK, I have got the lid off, quite a lot of fitting required and I have got it down to less than 1mm equal gap all round. I will get the calliper on the job later today and find where the high spot is and hopefully close the gap.

    Also I will have to use a tripod with the camera for later shots, I think the camera is having difficulty focusing because of the wood grain!

    woody U.K.

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    Great box on the way. I love that kind of clean shapes combined with super-wild grain looks.

    It may sound silly, but to me it looks like a "talent having proper education". (I don't know why I thought so..)

    sumu

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    Very nice indeed, I like the simple top with that lacewood. Great job!

    Corey

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    Nice looking box for sure.....

    Couple of points though, with WIP shots we went from carcass to completed box.

    Am still no clearer as to what a "drop down lid" actually entails.

    'Tis lovely work for sure and looks very nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzi View Post
    Nice looking box for sure.....

    Couple of points though, with WIP shots we went from carcass to completed box.

    Am still no clearer as to what a "drop down lid" actually entails.

    'Tis lovely work for sure and looks very nice
    It has been quite a difficult project to do WIP shots because the grain of the timber upsets the autofocus mechanics of my camera.

    However two shots done this morning and I have used photoshop techniques to emphasise the edges.






    The idea is to have the boxes carcass perfectly square at corners so that the lid will drop on to the carcass either location , proving that the box has not been cobbled together.
    This also means when machining saw lines must match up to dadoes already in place.
    It also saves me buying hinges, and at over 20 boxes in two years my pocket money might feel the pinch.
    woody U.K.

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    Thanks for that

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