a box to golden proportions.

**jow104** · 11th August 2007, 10:40 PM

Decided to give the strip design boxes a rest this time, partly because I purchased a new stock of hardwood in the week.

So making a box using purple heart and having in mind keeping the design of the box close to the Golden proportions.

So length is 204mmx 136widex 68 high..

Prepared a short length of P/H on the bandsaw which was 25.4 mm thick and finished with two halves 11.2 & 10.4 after putting through the thicknesser, which means I only lost 3.8mm overall using both machines.

I did look at a new bandsaw machine earlier in the week but I was dissatisfied with the fence that came with the saw. My present saw rpsb12 has a fence which is very adaptable and will track to the blade perfectly if I am prepared to be diligent in its set up.

Then cut the timber to lengths on my chop saw and finished up with only that short piece of wastage. Also I have one length of 700mm left from the resaw for another day.

**munruben** · 11th August 2007, 11:14 PM

Beautiful timber and colouring

**jow104** · 12th August 2007, 05:19 AM

Too warm in the workshop this afternoon but made a start this evening and cut the tails on the bandsaw (using the M42 blade with 14 teeth) and created the set up shown in the pics instead of making a jig.
Mitre gauge held to the table edge and run the timber against its edge up the blade to the stop held with clamp.
This way I know the tails are the same both sides when I mark up the pins but if cut by hand it only needs a fraction off the line and when pins are marked up they never have a clean look on the face side of timber.

**Boxinator** · 12th August 2007, 02:15 PM

Looking good! What's not to like about purple heart huh! Looking forward to more!

Corey

**labolle** · 12th August 2007, 03:18 PM

That is a beautiful piece of wood you split on your bandsaw. Love the bookmatched grain it left you with. I Wish I had one of those bandsaws in my own shop. Here is how you can cut that piece from there and end up with matching grain on all four corners. The match will be best if you take the inside of the board where the bandsaw ran and use that as the face of the wood. I've always wanted to do a box with this method, but have not done it yet since I don't have a bandsaw.

THe rought sketch I'm sending was done on my whiteboard and represents a board standing on edge.

**K_S** · 12th August 2007, 05:40 PM

Great looking setup and results

**jow104** · 13th August 2007, 03:17 AM

Regret to say the box is no longer to Golden Proportions. I fitted back piece No.2 to side piece number 3 and it should have been to side piece Number 2.

So I cut 10mm off both side pieces and redid the pins.

This purple heart is hard. Doing these few dovetails has blunted my chisels 3 times. So before using chisels again another resharpen is required.

Picture below of progress but not a close up,(that will walt until I have passed joints after the glue up)

**zenwood** · 13th August 2007, 11:40 AM

Looking nice so far. That purple heart should look very speccie when finished.

BTW the golden ratio time 136 (width) = 220 (length)
and 136/golden ratio = 84 (height)

Interesting idea cutting the DTs with the bandsaw like that.

**Skew ChiDAMN!!** · 13th August 2007, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by jow104

Regret to say the box is no longer to Golden Proportions.

Maybe not, but it's still close enough to the golden ratio that you should end up with a pleasing look.

Earlier today I tried cutting some dovies your way (on a bandsaw) and have decided it's definitely not for me. I suspect that using my rip blade (3/4"@ 4TPI) wasn't a good choice,

but I prefer my dozuki anyway.

**jow104** · 13th August 2007, 05:40 PM

My length finished up at 202mm
width will now be 122mm
So what should be the height ?

No Skew a blade like that is definately not for dovetails in joinery.

I have also got a jig made for doing the pins on a bandsaw, but they then need to be cut first. a link to jig types here,

http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/ww_cha...240331,00.html

http://www.djmarks.com/stories/djm/C...dsaw_46848.asp

**jow104** · 14th August 2007, 05:21 AM

Unusual timber this purple heart.

picture of dust (from chopsaw)

I got the box glued up this morning and cleaned up the joints this evening. First I tried the sanding disk but it turned the end grain of the dovetails almost black.
Switched over to a honed up chisel and that worked better but even then I had to resharpen before getting all round the box.

Just a couple of gaps to slip something in.!

**jow104** · 15th August 2007, 01:23 AM

Weather too bad to go out in the workshop today (gale force winds and a couple inches of rain) so did a digital painting in pspX1, Lane Cove national park, Chatswood West , Sydney.

**zenwood** · 15th August 2007, 01:30 AM

jow104: you make me wish I was retired.

**jow104** · 15th August 2007, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by zenwood

jow104: you make me wish I was retired.

I waited 65 years for mine and I dont know how I had time to go to work.

**jow104** · 15th August 2007, 04:30 AM

No work in the shop this evening either, and I have had a very exciting developement idea for the box which has got to wait.

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