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    Default half blind dovetail jig

    Does anyone know of a dovetail jig that can make a half blind dovetail like the one shown on the attached box. In particular, the dovetail seems to have a very low degree of angle which makes it appealing.

    I hope this isn't a double post. I tried to post this earlier but I can't find it.

    Thanks much

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    just cut the dovetail by hand with a Japanese saw!!! really easy if you use a Japanese saw!!! when i first began woodworking, i tried doing dovetail joint with a tenon saw, but it turned out messy and the joints don't even fir. but later i bought a Japanese dovetail saw (cheaper than a English dovetail saw!!) the cut was very clean and accurate !!!

    cheers
    H.S.

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    Interesting it would depend on the Dovetail cutter router as well as the jig. Not sure that low angle would be good if it was a soft wood. An option might be to find any sort of low angle jig that does through dovetails and and laminate an identical sized strip of wood over the draw face - instant half-blind dovetails.
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    Default Try a Gifkin.

    http://www.gifkins.com.au/

    I think this jig should be up to the task. Have heard lots of great things about it on this board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labolle View Post
    http://www.gifkins.com.au/

    I think this jig should be up to the task. Have heard lots of great things about it on this board.
    Somebody may correct me but I think the Gifkins and similar only do through dovetails. They can't do half blind.
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
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    I also believe the Gifkins can only do a half blind, although I don't have one. I got a book called "Making Heirloom Boxes" by Peter Lloyd. He used to use a Leigh but know has his own jig, of sorts for making these dovetails. It is not a jig or method I would want to use.

    I think the Incra jig would make a close copy of this half blind. The way it is described in the book, it seems like you would be better off doing it by hand.

    The book is very good though.

    Steve Bolton

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbolton View Post
    I also believe the Gifkins can only do a half blind, although I don't have one. I got a book called "Making Heirloom Boxes" by Peter Lloyd. He used to use a Leigh but know has his own jig, of sorts for making these dovetails. It is not a jig or method I would want to use.

    I think the Incra jig would make a close copy of this half blind. The way it is described in the book, it seems like you would be better off doing it by hand.

    The book is very good though.

    Steve Bolton
    Actually, NCArcher is right, the Gifkin will do only through dovetails. If you want half blind you can get the "look" of halfblind joints with a drawer by adding a drawer front but it's basically only does the through dovetails . This jig is designed for box making and does it well.

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    Also the spacing is not variable in the Gifkins jig. I think the Leigh jig would be capable of doing this join.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munruben View Post
    Also the spacing is not variable in the Gifkins jig.
    I think they might be

    http://www.gifkins.com.au/samplejoints.html

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    Depends what you term variable. Yes between the different templates there is different spacing, however when you have a template you cannot vary the spacing within that template.

    With the Leigh jig however, you can put the fingers withing the work wherever you want them. For instance an extreme example would be that you would have 10mm between pin 1&2 20mm beteen pin 2&3 30mm between pin 3&4 and so forth.

    Have a look at the Leigh site and you'll see what I mean, better still get the Leigh demo DVD, that really shows off the Leigh capabilities. (I'm sounding like an ad for Leigh here!, and I haven't even got one!)

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    I think Roger Gifkins is now selling a thing called a Variable Space Upgrade or something like that which actually will allow variable spacing between DT's within each template.

    http://www.gifkins.com.au/SpecialtyProducts.html
    Last edited by BrettC; 8th September 2007 at 09:54 PM. Reason: Added link
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    The Leigh Jig can do both through and half blind dovetails at any spacing you choose without purchasing more templates.

    The Gifkins is fantastic and simple to use, but limited and requires many template purchases in order to do what the Leigh can do "out of the box"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettC View Post
    I think Roger Gifkins is now selling a thing called a Variable Space Upgrade or something like that which actually will allow variable spacing between DT's within each template.
    Thats true but having seen the dvd of these spacers in use, they are limited compared to the Leigh jig in this type of application and as mentioned above, the Gifkins can only do through dovetails. Don't get me wrong, I have the Gifkins and it is a brilliant jig but for the purpose sbolton needs, I feel the Leigh would be more suitable.
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    While we are talking about the Gifkins jig, Roger has a larger jig now available. Its called Gifkins Big Jig and is suitable for boards up to 550mm wide and 32mm thick.Can be seen on the link BrettC posted take a look http://www.gifkins.com.au/SpecialtyProducts.html
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    Default half blind dovetail jig

    Looks to me like the joint was cut with either a Leigh or Incra, both of which are capable of doing this joint. Could also have been done by a woodrat using standard tct dovetail cutters not woodrat ones.
    ssgt

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