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    This is a beautifully done box Ruddy!! And the dividers are a great point of
    difference to the usual methods.!!!

    I have no desire to detract from your wonderful workmanship, but for me
    the box itself is too Rococo like. I Think a plain flat outside would suit my eye better.

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    Artme...I do appreciate your comment because I too do not like the result. I thought long and hard about posting this box because it is not pleasing to my eye. It is too high and the sculpting in no way achieved what I had in mind.
    As I said earlier, it looks like a rectangular box that has been hacked. In my opinion the result is ugly.
    But as Alexs said in his remark, all was not lost because the sculpting led me to the idea of the freehand tray approach and I am sure that this style of tray does enhance the project. Another first for me was the inclusion of brass as some thing new and I think that worked. You win some , you lose some....you just have to keep trying.
    Again, thanks for the honest critique.
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    We are glad you did post it, thanks Ruddy. It is a very interesting design, and teaches us what to do or possibly what not to do in future, according to each of our personal tastes. Personally, I think it is great, breaking out of the mould and generating ideas and discussion. Well done!
    regards,

    Dengy

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    Thanks for the visit yesterday, look forward to seeing what you can do with the blackbean....

    I hadn't noticed this one.

    I can see what you said about the blackwood. It however makes the top somewhat different to a standard cover, so has its own beauty.
    Well done as usual.......
    Greg

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    Sorry to boost an old thread, but I love that top tray. Really really great idea.

    How did you do that tray if you don't mind me asking? With the fluid curved sides? Bit hard to see from the picture, is it one piece of wood carved out, or multiples?

    Very nice IMO

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    Hi Hellofellow..You can make the tray from one piece of wood as I have done on this box. The disadvantage of using just one piece of wood is that the short sides are thin and it is all cross grain. I have posted below some more recent trays that I have made and these are better in my opinion as I have run some long grain on the ends to give strength. I start with a block of wood that is the correct thickness you need for the tray depth however I begin with the length and width larger than the box opening. I draw out the shape I want onto paper and then glue that to the wood. I use a scroll saw and tilt the blade to about 7 or 8 degrees and then cut out the shapes. The tapered blade ensures there is plenty of integrity in the tray. The next step is to shape the cavities and I do that with a combination of sharp chisels , a Dremel with small flap wheels and some hand sanding. I then trim the length and width to fit the box with sufficient clearance and then rout out the underside to take the bottom of the tray. I use 3mm ply for the base and rout about 4 mm deep to allow for the lining thickness. The base is screwed on trapping the lining material. Hope this helps.Tray3.JPGTray4.JPGtray2.JPGTray1.JPGThis way of making trays allows plenty of design freedom as you can lower the heights on smaller cavities as shown in the rosewood tray in the second picture.
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    Absolutely fantastic

    Love that second picture. Really has fluid sides. Brilliant idea IMO.

    I have a scroll saw, but no dremel. Fingers crossed I would be able to get a similar curved look just with the scroll saw and a little sanding? I imagine you only use the dremel and chisels to clean up the curves?

    Thanks so much for your reply, I just had to ask how you did this as I like the idea so much.

    Cheers

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    Hi Hellofellow. You should be able to get a good result without using a dremel. Bear in mind when you are shaping the tray by hand you can use a rasp to achieve the same fluid curves as a dremel will produce. You also can attack the tray from the top and also the bottom as at that stage it is an open frame. If the tray is symmetrical in design I do a small section on one side and then do the same on the other. That way you can sort of keep the curves consistent on both sides. If I do too much on one side, my memory span is exceeded and I forget how much I needed to take off to match!.. There is quite a bit of hand sanding involved and I use some 25 mm wide Metalite cloth that you can buy on the roll. I have a roll of 80 grit, 150 grit and then normal sand paper for the finer grits.
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