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    Default Tray design help needed

    Hello, I have made a box of Qld Silver Ash with a Red Oak lid, and now have made a 2nd one, but this time with provision for a tray, which I am about to make next week.

    I would like to get some advice on the design options for the tray please. The tray ends will be high with a curve across the width and with a hand grip, like the one shown below, but will have mitre joints instead of the chunky machined dovetails. (still working on my manual dovetail skill)

    Should the tray be made of the same timber as the box i.e., out of Red Oak or out of QSA , or something completely different, like Northern Silky Oak or even pinkish paddock Jarrah?

    Should the tray timber be light coloured or dark coloured? And what to do for the lining - bright red, black, or something in between ?

    This whole string of questions raises the point as to whether good design principles exist for boxes and trays, to make them attractive to the eye. Normally I try to make boxes to the Golden Ratio i.e., start with the height, and keep multiplying by 1.62 to get the other two dimensions, or vice versa. These shape of boxes tend to look comfortable to my eye.

    Will appreciate any ideas and suggestions, thank you

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    regards,

    Dengy

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    Never built a box with three timbers and wouldn't unless it was the only option. My number one choice for the tray would be the Red Oak but if you don't have enough the Silver Ash will look smart.

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    I think use Silver Ash for the tray, as that is part of the box as a whole. The Red Oak in the lid is only a contrasting feature.

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    Keith

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    Mary thinks do the main frame of the tray in NSA and the internal partitions in the CRO. But as you know by now she's only concerned with the asthetics and don't mind increasing your workload.

    Me, I'd be looking for a flat grained timber in a matching red colour - Rose Alder, Grey Bloodwood or similar. I think it might get too busy using red oak alone.

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    Sorry John, what is NSA? Or did you mean Northern Silky Oak? NSO
    regards,

    Dengy

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    Northern Silver Ash.

    Theres Actually two Silver Ashes...
    Northern, Flindersia bourjotiana, grows from Mt Fox through to Iron Range
    and Southern, aka Cudgerie Flindersia schottiana, grows from Northern NSW to Eungella plus an isolated stand near Ravenshoe.

    Unless you're a botanist there's no difference in them

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    Knew I asked the right person . Thanks John
    regards,

    Dengy

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