Thread: Walnut Box

Brian,

2 questions, 1. Have you got central heating? I see the radiator in the corner of the photo, I haven't seen it in oz houses before. 2. Which glue are you using? I use Titebond 2 and have been told that it wont stick to itself, so sealing the end grain with glue would make the joint weaker. I am curious though.

Richard

Dallas,

Good question! As a truly scientific test I went to the workshop under controlled conditions early this morning (i.e. after two cups of coffee) and ran the data. I took a piece of genuine 3M double sided tape and a piece of this tape then stuck them to my finger. Waited 30 seconds then peeled them off.

The surprise finding was that the cheapy tape actually seemed to grip better than the 3M. Can’t say about long term but so far (three months) I’ve had no failures. The outside covering that you peel off is a bit thinner than on the 3M but then you only throw that bit away.....

Richard,

Sure do have central heating! The hydronic heating with radiators gives a beautiful warmth. It’s more expensive to install but well worth it in my opinion. Being a Londoner by background I was used to radiators. There’s quite a lot of this about down here south of the Arctic circle

Glue? Depends a bit on what I’m working on. Usually it is TB2 or TB3. I try to use whatever is closest in colour, particularly on lighter colour woods.

If I need more time on a glue up It’s Titebond Extend.

For making curved tops (i.e. vacuum bending) I use Cascamite, an urea formaldehyde glue as it sets rock solid - no creep at all. Unfortunately it sets so hard that it is a beggar to work with if you’ve been overenthusiastic with it.

For veneering small panels I use TB2 or 3. For larger pieces I use West System epoxy as it doesn’t contain water so it doesn’t make the veneers curl up while I’m working with them. It is slow to dry so I can get everything positioned properly, it can be thickened with West system filler fibres so it doesn’t bleed through and when it’s dry it has no creep.

I don’t know the answer to TB2 not sticking to itself, Richard, but I can see the logic if we’re talking about adhering wet TB2 to dry TB2. However, if you are sizing/sealing with glue you are only trying to clog up the eng grain so it will not suck the glue out of the joint. For me, this means applying glue to the mitres, leaving it just a little while to get absorbed rather than dry, then adding more glue and clamping up.

Hope this helps!

Brian

Double post.

Truly magnificent.

Originally Posted by homey

Sure do have central heating! The hydronic heating with radiators gives a beautiful warmth. It’s more expensive to install but well worth it in my opinion. Being a Londoner by background I was used to radiators. There’s quite a lot of this about down here south of the Arctic circle

That explains it, only the English now about heating..... do you do as my in-laws do in summer (like they do at home)? Just open the doors and think its going to get a nice breeze? instead of closing up to keep the heat out!! hahahaha

I had heard about that system of clogging the straw like pores of end grain, but I guess there's many thoughts on that subject. It definitely makes sense.

Originally Posted by homey

Sure do have central heating! The hydronic heating with radiators gives a beautiful warmth. It’s more expensive to install but well worth it in my opinion. Being a Londoner by background I was used to radiators. There’s quite a lot of this about down here south of the Arctic circle

That explains it, only the English now about heating..... do you do as my in-laws do in summer (like they do at home)? Just open the doors and think its going to get a nice breeze? instead of closing up to keep the heat out!! hahahaha

I had heard about that system of clogging the straw like pores of end grain, but I guess there's many thoughts on that subject. It definitely makes sense.

Brian I just spotted this beautiful piece. That is truely gorgeous, where did you get the hardware?
Thanks for the various explanations on technique.

Cheers

Thanks, Larkan

The hinges and lock are from Andrew Crawford at smartBoxmaker | box making courses, premium box hardware and more... They are expensive but the quality is first class.

Brian

Though they looked expensive. I agree, I've always admired his hardware but not purchased any todate.

Cheers Kerry