Go Back   Woodwork Forums > WOODWORKING FORUMS - GENERAL > ROUTER JIGS
iSpy Wiki Register All AlbumsBlogs FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

FORUM SHORTCUTS

FINISHING ETC

FREE STUFF

HAND TOOLS & MACHINERY

FORUM LIBRARY NEW

MARKET PLACE NEW

METALWORK FORUMS

MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS

SPECIAL INTERESTS

TIMBER FORUMS

WOODEN BOATS

WOODTURNING FORUMS

WOODWORKING-ALL


ADVANCED
FORUM SEARCH

CONTACT US


EXTRAS

RENOVATE FORUM

U-BEAUT POLISHES

WOODWORKING AUSTRALIA

MY STUFF











ROUTER JIGS Forum for router jigs, Woodrat, Gifkin, etc. etc. etc. Got a problem? Figured out how to use the thing? Found something new it will do? Found something it can't do. Then post it here.

 

Reply
 
LinkBack (2) Thread Tools
  2 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1  
Old 22nd Sep 2009, 02:38 AM
Apprentice (new member)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 6
rovenm has disabled reputation
Default Adjustable Dado jig - setup problems

Hi,

I just got my new router a week ago and decided to build an adjustable dado jig as my first woodworking project.

I replaced the router base with a 7 inch base (the router came with a 6" base) and built my jig as per the instructions provided. When I tried to do a trial dado cut on a piece of scrap, I noticed that the 1/4 inch straigh bit did not align perfectly with one of the sides of the jib. There was a gap of approx. 1/8" resulting in the dado being smaller than the planned size.

What seems to be the problem here? Is it because the bit is not centered perfectly with the new router base? when the two boards (fixed and adjustable) are butted together, the 7" base fits in perfectly but the dado is off by 1/8".

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.

thanks

Roven
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 22nd Sep 2009, 04:36 AM
Deceased
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: poland
Age: 65
Posts: 762
niki What can I say.niki What can I say.niki What can I say.niki What can I say.niki What can I say.niki What can I say.niki What can I say.niki What can I say.niki What can I say.niki What can I say.niki What can I say.
Default

Welcome to the forum Roven

I don't know which dado jig you are talking about (a picture would be helpful) but, it looks to me that your bit is not siting at the center of the router base...

I'm marking the side that I used for the jig and always work with the marked side facing the jig fence.

Regards
niki

11.jpg12.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 22nd Sep 2009, 04:43 AM
Apprentice (new member)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 6
rovenm has disabled reputation
Default

Hi Niki,

thanks for the reply. I made my own jig which is similar to the pic posted on this link: http://www.routerforums.com/jigs-fix...-dado-jig.html. The jib has one fixed side and one adjustable side. The problem as you have pointed out could be caused due to the centering of the router base. Is there a way to find out if the bit is dead center. I was just eyeballing the bit to determine if it was centered.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 22nd Sep 2009, 06:59 AM
Apprentice (new member)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 6
rovenm has disabled reputation
Default

Thanks Niki. I will mark the side that try out one more time. The jig that I made was per the instructions that I got from this site: www.woodsmithshop.com/download/204/adjustabledadojig.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 28th Sep 2009, 11:21 AM
Golden Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mornington Peninsula
Age: 33
Posts: 538
Afro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rovenm View Post
Is there a way to find out if the bit is dead center. I was just eyeballing the bit to determine if it was centered.
Not sure if this would work but it sounds logical ... Cut one dado with the router then measure the width with some accurate calipers. Then rotate the router 180 degrees and cut into the same dado. Measure again.

If the second cut is wider then your bit is off centre (or your jig moved!)

This won't tell you which side it is closer to but will let you know that you need to be careful using the same side to the fence each time.

Cheers,
Af.
__________________
____________________________________
"The things I make may be for others, but how I make them is for me."

http://carljoseph.com.au
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carljoseph/
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 29th Sep 2009, 12:22 AM
Apprentice (new member)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 6
rovenm has disabled reputation
Default

Thanks AF. Will do this test.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 29th Sep 2009, 10:02 AM
Golden Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mornington Peninsula
Age: 33
Posts: 538
Afro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant futureAfro Boy has a brilliant future
Default

Something else I just read ... If you have a guide bushing, you can put that in with a dovetail bit that is larger/wide than the bushing itself. Then release the plunge until the bit just barely touches the inside edge of the bushing. Rotate the bit by hand and you should be able to see if it is close to any one side than the other.

Af.
__________________
____________________________________
"The things I make may be for others, but how I make them is for me."

http://carljoseph.com.au
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carljoseph/
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 29th Sep 2009, 12:48 PM
Stevenp's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Portland Vic. Australia.
Age: 58
Posts: 312
Stevenp has a brilliant futureStevenp has a brilliant futureStevenp has a brilliant futureStevenp has a brilliant futureStevenp has a brilliant futureStevenp has a brilliant futureStevenp has a brilliant futureStevenp has a brilliant futureStevenp has a brilliant futureStevenp has a brilliant futureStevenp has a brilliant future
Default

G'day Roven, I have made a couple of these jigs over the years and found them to be excellent.
When making one of these the base needs to be a bit wider than necessary so that the router bit trims the base to size with the first cut. The jig will only work with the bit that was used to trim it, so make a note of which bit was used.
Once the jig is trimmed the first time it is simply a matter of using a piece of the material that is to fit in the dadoe, as a "sizer" and away you go.
I have found these to be a great asset in my shed, I hope you work this one out.
Cheers Steven.
__________________
The hurrier I go, the behinder I get.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 17th Nov 2009, 03:45 AM
Apprentice (new member)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 6
rovenm has disabled reputation
Default

Thanks Steven.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 2nd Jan 2010, 09:18 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Grimsby UK
Posts: 147
mailee has a reputation beyond reputemailee has a reputation beyond reputemailee has a reputation beyond reputemailee has a reputation beyond reputemailee has a reputation beyond reputemailee has a reputation beyond reputemailee has a reputation beyond reputemailee has a reputation beyond reputemailee has a reputation beyond reputemailee has a reputation beyond reputemailee has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I too use one of these jigs for cutting dados. I use the same cutter that I used to trim the jig as has been suggested and it works fine. You will find however that even the router base is not concentric across it's base. No matter how good the tooling is that made the machine there will be discrepencies albeit of just a few thou or so but it will be there. I always reference the same side of the router to the jig face to ensure the cut is central and this works fine for me. If however you do change the cutter it will effect the dado size and you will have to account for this. HTH.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 3rd Jan 2010, 02:02 PM
Apprentice (new member)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 6
rovenm has disabled reputation
Default Thanks Mailee.

I have got the jig to work and have done a few dados. Thanks for all the suggestions received.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
adjustable, dado, jig, problems, setup

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.woodworkforums.com/f88/adjustable-dado-jig-setup-problems-105046/
Posted By For Type Date
Adjustable Dado Jig This thread Refback 13th Jun 2010 01:25 PM
Router Adjustable Dado Jig - Router Forums This thread Refback 28th Oct 2009 01:38 PM

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Adjustable Pen Mandrel Big Shed WOODTURNING - PEN TURNING 28 14th Mar 2008 09:37 AM
To Dado or not to Dado? Spindle Moulder or Router? Dovetail TABLE SAWS & COMBINATIONS 6 13th Oct 2007 01:53 AM
Router Adjustable Dado Jig Barry_White HOMEMADE TOOLS AND JIGS ETC. 20 6th Jun 2005 04:49 PM
Problems with Carbatec ML 392 Setup Bud Abbott HAND TOOLS - POWERED 44 17th Sep 2004 02:53 PM


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 07:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.1
Powered by vbWiki Pro 1.3 RC4. Copyright ©2006-2007, NuHit, LLC

Copyright © U-Beaut Enterprises 1999 - 2010. All rights reserved.

This website and its content is copyright of U-Beaut Enterprises.
Any redistribution or reproduction of part or all of the contents in any form is prohibited other than the following:

♦ you may print or download to a local hard disk extracts for your personal and non-commercial use only
♦ you may copy the content to individual third parties for their personal use,  but only if you acknowledge
Woodwork Forums as the source of the material.

You may not, except with our express written permission, distribute or commercially exploit the content.
Nor may you transmit it or store it in any other website or other form of electronic retrieval system.