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    Hi,

    I followed a link from google to this site when I entered Router lettering kit. As yet I haven't been able to find it. Can anyone help. I'm after one to make kids bedroom signs etc. I saw one years ago at wonderland A guy was sitting in a booth using a router and some complicated addon and he was knocking out signs by the dozen. Not the best quality or even good wood but I still have the one he made for me after about 20 to 25 years ago. I've always thought they would be a handy thing to have. I think the company was Carby-Tec or similar but why he was linking to here I don't know.

    Regards to all Bedbug. (Stu)

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    Use the forum Search function (menu item on the top bar). Enter [lettering] as keyword, and select [ROUTING FORUM] to restrict results.

    Cheers,
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    G'Day Stu,
    Is this what your chasing?

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f20/ro...etters-125237/

    Cheers, Crowie

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    Hi Bedbug

    I got mine here
    MILESCRAFT 1206 Sign Making Router Template Kit

    The local agent is in Perth - here
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    but I think the local price is outrageous.

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    Well, what a pleasant surprise. One of the members contacted me and very kindly sold me a Milescraft kit he purchased at a garage sale. I received it but it was lacking a few parts but it got me so interested I ended up buying the whole outfit on Ebay. Just on $100.00 for the kit plus freight. I might add the freight far outweighed the price of the kit. It should be here this week. I also spotted the circle/edging template adapter gizmo. Now that's another great idea. OK it makes me lazy but then being disabled and told in no short terms by my doctor that it could mean the rest of my life in bed. I laughed and said I've spent the last 8 year in bed so to heck with it I'm setting up a workshop (with help) and I'll keep doing what I want to do until I can't do it any more. When the only option to the workshop is bedI hardly think the threat of bed if I do my woodwork is a deterent. My wife isn't pleased but she agrees I may as well have some fun while I think I can. What's a few more pain killers when I'm on Morphine permanently.

    With moral support from Roger from South Aussie. And seeing what he is making I might not get anywhere near as good but I'll literally die trying. His woodworking is amazing and it's not surprising he's making a good living at it. His Ford Ute and Mac trucks are too good as toys. They are display case items. He told me he's sending a truck over. I don't think the wheels will last the distance. This forum has some very talented people on it and as I haven't had the pleasure of seeing everyone's work I reckon Roger's work is the best I've seen. I can dream of doing likewise I guess.

    My wife seems to think I've gone a bit far after buying a new scroll saw, belt/disk sander, dremel, 2 routers, 50 router bits, a drill press and a stack of timber. All I need now is someone to take away all the computers and monitors taking up most of the area for my workshop. Plus HiFi gear and helicopters.

    I wonder, is anyone using any of the other Milescraft equipment. I'd like to hear what it's like.

    Regards To all Stu

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    Hi Stu, I have the design/inlay kit , the base plate/bushing set and the adapter for the metal bushings and am very happy with them.

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    That's great Harold. I've watched the video on using that unit a number of times. It looks Impressive especially the inlay kit. I ended up getting the lettering jig but one piece was broken so anchoring it was impossible. The company are supposed to be sending me a replacement but it still hasn't arrived. The guy I bought it from asked me yesterday had I considered Epoxying the broken piece. I have a feeling they don't want to replace the part and would prefer me to repair it which I find very unfair. The rails which hold the letters where blackened on each end and I could see indentations where the thumbscrew was tightened up. I complained the unit had been used, returned with a broken piece and it was just sent on to me. They got rather upset that I'd ever think that but looking at the evidence it's rather obvious. I'm sure they think I used it and broke it. I sent them photos but I've heard nothing since. I'm rather sorry I bought it. The guy quoted me $78.00 USD for the combined design and inlay kit with all the fittings. I asked if it was available without the big disk which fits to the router. Why would I want 2 of them? But it was just a quote and not a necessity so it will be something to think about only. I'd love to have a lathe. I used to be allowed to use the one at school during my lunch time. I was so intrigued with what I could do with it. My teacher always said to me I should be a chippie. I neve thought I'd take so long. I get mesmerized by just watching them being used. I even dream about using one and remember using one 50 years ago. I remember every movement. It's a strange feeling even though I'm asleep. I made a set of 4 goblets in my lunch breaks because I had no interuptions I could be very precise. They sat in the schools trophy display cabinet for 12 years after I left according to a gentleman who was a teacher after I left. He caught up with me on the Internet but unfortunately I think he passed away. I'd really like to know if they are still there. I doubt it but it would be nice to know if something made that long ago may stille be thee in another 50 years time. They still have a card saying I made them, if they are still there. That's my last aim in life. own a lathe. I couldn't care if it was the same as the one I used to use or the cheap one from Bunnings. I saw one for $249.00 I wonder what it's like and if it's solid and precise enough to make another set of 4 goblets. I know the one at school had no play in it because the woodwork teacher said if it was held up to a bright light you could see light through it. I knew I made them thin because I remember sweating with every fraction of a movement. I don't think my nerves could take it today plus I think I was very lucky with the wood I picked. I'm not sure about the bright light story. I never had a chance to try it. They were placed straight in the cabinet and I never touched them again. I really enjoyed those days of learning. I wonder if it's like riding a bike and once learned never forgotten or is 50 years just too long. Maybe I just dream too much.

    Sorry Harold I was having a flashback of good memories Kind regards Stu

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    G'Day Stu,
    Can't help with router lettering jig or wood lathe, but for my money
    or should I say for your money;
    have a go, you've got the know-how & talent,
    so why not give it a go.
    Cheers, Crowie

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    I will Crowie, I will as soon as I win Lotto. Then again that's a luxury we don't get any more so I have little chance of winning. Maybe I should go into business derusting old tools, I'm getting pretty good at it. Started with the instuctions and figured out better ways and now it's working a charm. I put a few pieces back in for another cook this morning because I wasn't happy with the first attempt. Some things take longer than others. So if the thought of all that yucky gunk and believe me it's very yucky and not ending up with washer women's hands send me your rusty bits (Tools) (Woodworking) or actually any smallish items needing a bit of care and I will happily derust them for you. Better than buying a new whatever. If I get any more locals wanting things done I will get a larger tub and a bigger supply and better anodes. It's just another way to solve that satisfaction factor we all enjoy when building something or in this case turning an ugly duckling into a fully working and acceptable tool. I've been reading some pretty deep stuff about using tools (including things like pens and guns etc) Many things are classed as tools. Put simply anything which helps you get a job done.

    Psychologically it's important to have clean, good looking and sharp (if need be) tools. Tests have shown that dirty, bent or out of shape and Blunt tools can interfere with the job being done. It's obvious a plane being blunt or saw needing resetting and sharpened will do a bad job but "dirty" surely it doesn't matter if a screwdriver is dirty, it's only the tip which does any work and apart from the tools making your hands also dirty which in turn makes you timber dirty just the fact that a tool looks bad is enough to influence the finished product. Tests were done with 20 different people, all well versed in woodworking and half the people had brand new tools they had to remove the wrapping to get at and the other hals were given fully functional tools but had chipped paint, signs of rust etc. The tools were brand new, never used but bashed with a hammer to chip paint or scored with a scraper and left in grass which was watered every second day for 3 weeks. Basically they were made to look as bad as possible but still work perfectly. Every person in both teams were given the same task and given a certain time to finish it.

    From memory, all the clean crew finished their tasks but only7 finished in the dirty crew. The quality of work was judged to be much better in the clean crews tasks than the dirty crews and all the clean crew enjoyed doing the task but only 2 of the remaining 7 dirty crew enjoyed themselves. When asked about their tasks in private and asked why their tasks weren't as good as the other crews (neither crew knew anything about the difference in tools they were in seperate rooms) the excuse used by all but one of the dirty crew was to blame their tools, they worked the same, they were are sharp as new (all tools were proffessionally sharpened prior to use) so basically the outcome was, people work better and do a better job with nice clean and flashy new tools. I can understand that. In my opinion the only exception is the worker who has his favourite tool and wouldn't part with it no matter what. Just using electronic tools I had my favourite screwdriver. The top was damaged from a young relative using it as a phillips shaped chisel and the shaft was slightly bent because it was used to remove a spark plug with a tool which had it's handle broken so you had to use a metal bar to rotate it. The problem was the person decided to remove it by tightening it up. He couldn't budge it. I saw what he was using and I almost cried, my favourite screwdriver with a massive bend in it. I pounded it with a mallett but I couldn't quite get it straigh but it's still my favourite tool in my electronic toolbox. Maybe I'm mad to love a screwdriver but I think I'd better drop that where it sits, Ahem!

    But seriously folks, I'd be honoured to refurbish your tools. Just a small box with anything you need done as long as it doesn't exceed 18 inches long and 8 inches wide. If anything bigger does arrive I will get a bigger tub. It really is a stunning job and well worth doing. Anything really rusty all over and I mean BAD, is left with a black sheen. Things like set squares, metal rulers, bevels etc take much longer but relly look amazing afterwards. My favourites are plane blades and fittings they really look good. If a metal is really badly discoloured but underneath the gunk is shiny metal it's possible for a dark patch to remain. I've managed o bring pieces with inch and centimeter markings completely hidden. In fact a never knew there were any markings there at all until I gave it an electric bath. Now the shine and every marking is clearly visible so no damage whatever is done to the item. No good metal is removed. No matter what I do it just can't happen. Once it's clean and rust free all electolysis is over and done with. It can sit there for another week and no harm will come to it. I will do an item in general woodworking and show some photos. You'll be shocked at the results.

    Old tools don't die, they just rust away. Regards Stu

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    Hi guys, i got in touch with tembecon in Perth who were extremely helpful and efficient. They had a Milecraft "Signpro" kit in stock and shipped it over to me for $20. After i paid by internet it was here in a few days. it's pretty easy to use, especially after watching the vidoes. The pic is a piece of cedar i found in a site bin and was my second attempt. Should get better in time.

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