Thread: Why can't I stain timber black?

Originally Posted by woodPixel

The very best method ive ever found is with Osmo 3590 Black Oil Stain

Been looking into this stuff, I must say it looks very good.

Originally Posted by droog

Post 3 ??

And from Feast Watsons website

droog

I don't see that Prooftint was mentioned by name. I particularly picked up on this as the OP had referred to FW's Black Japan, which at first glance would seem a similar product: It is not, with "black" being where the similarity ends. I expect there would be other products out there that compare, but I can only talk of my own experience.

I guess I have fallen into the "Hoover" syndrome trap or for woodies "Masonite" instead of hardboard.



Regards
Paul

Originally Posted by Bushmiller

I particularly picked up on this as the OP had referred to FW's Black Japan, which at first glance would seem a similar product: It is not, with "black" being where the similarity ends.

I'm glad you pointed it out, because I thought the FW Black Japan was the only black they had.

Both the Japan black and black stains I mentioned in my first post here were Feast Watson Prooftint.

I ended up spray painting the frames with one coat undercoat and three light passes on satin black. Came out pretty good with the grain of the tassie oak on show.

Originally Posted by EagerBeaver71

Been looking into this stuff, I must say it looks very good.

Years back I went through the whole "try everything" to get the blackest black that wasn't paint.

I was keen to ensure the timbers qualities weren't simply drowned out by fillers and coats.

If I remember rightly, I tested damned near everything. Aniline (sp?) dies, inks, stains, everything to get black black.

This is where I fell on the the Osmo 3590 Black Oil Stain.

It soaked right in, didn't sit on the surface, made the deepest black of any method I tried and repeated applications showed that after the work is done, its done.... no need for more. One didn't waste it due to this (its $$$ stuff!)

It also didn't rub off or wear down, took a burnishing and touched up perfectly. A landlubber can use it without skill.

Like the ancient blue-water-in-chalk ad, this stuff soaked into the timber. It isn't a surface treatment.

I strongly recommend it.

Originally Posted by woodPixel

Years back I went through the whole "try everything" to get the blackest black that wasn't paint.

I was keen to ensure the timbers qualities weren't simply drowned out by fillers and coats.

If I remember rightly, I tested damned near everything. Aniline (sp?) dies, inks, stains, everything to get black black.

This is where I fell on the the Osmo 3590 Black Oil Stain.

It soaked right in, didn't sit on the surface, made the deepest black of any method I tried and repeated applications showed that after the work is done, its done.... no need for more. One didn't waste it due to this (its $$$ stuff!)

It also didn't rub off or wear down, took a burnishing and touched up perfectly. A landlubber can use it without skill.

Like the ancient blue-water-in-chalk ad, this stuff soaked into the timber. It isn't a surface treatment.

I strongly recommend it.

Have you tried any other colours in the same brand?. I'd be interested to hear if anyones managed to do a nice walnut colour with one of the pigments.

I've used indian ink before. Very black.

I bought a little bottle from a newsagent but larger bottles (500mL) can be found at OfficeWorks




I see indian ink has been proposed earlier. I didn't see page 1 of this thread before replying.