Thread: Stain, Sealer, Shellac!

I forgot the links!:

https://www.bunnings.com.au/bondall-1l-monocel-all-purpose-timber-sealer_p1580932

Just a moment...

Add a little shellac to the stain and it will hold on hard enough to use shellac over the top . 5% should be enough to work and will hardly change the stain at all .
As soon as you get a coat of shellac over the top of such a stain it also holds well from that point. So a polisher will sometimes just give a very thin fast coat of shellac with a brush that doesn’t disturb the coat of stain. It has to be a fast almost dry coat though . Not sitting there wet for any length of time . Fast thin dry and follow up instantly with a go over with the heat gun and as long you not pulling up colour with the brush all will be good . You won’t pull up colour if it’s fast dry and thin.

Originally Posted by auscab

Add a little shellac to the stain and it will hold on hard enough to use shellac over the top . 5% should be enough to work and will hardly change the stain at all .
As soon as you get a coat of shellac over the top of such a stain it also holds well from that point. So a polisher will sometimes just give a very thin fast coat of shellac with a brush that doesn’t disturb the coat of stain. It has to be a fast almost dry coat though . Not sitting there wet for any length of time . Fast thin dry and follow up instantly with a go over with the heat gun and as long you not pulling up colour with the brush all will be good . You won’t pull up colour if it’s fast dry and thin.

Thanks for the advice Rob, I'll give it a go!.

If you’re a chicken like me you can spray the stain and shellac on. I used an airbrush to spray spirit stain, followed by shellac onto a gramophone I restored. Obviously a bigger job calls for a bigger spray gun.

Originally Posted by jack620

If you’re a chicken like me you can spray the stain and shellac on. I used an airbrush to spray spirit stain, followed by shellac onto a gramophone I restored. Obviously a bigger job calls for a bigger spray gun.

I have no issue wiping the stain on, its keeping it on and not re-dissolving the stain that's the problem. I have tried spray, roller, wiping, brushing all to varying degree's of finesse and none have worked. Just to give a little context the area to be stained & finished is 4x2ft coffee table top. The colour will be going from white oak veneer to a dark walnut.

Examples below are on Veneered white oak: left to right: first two boards are stained then sanding sealer applied (unfinished), boards 3-6 have coats of polyurethane on using different applications and tones. None of the finishes have been finished (polished or taken to a satin sheen):

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The picture above is only an example of how dark the finish is I'm looking for.

I will be trying Robs suggestion tomorrow and if that doesn't work for me I'll give the Intergrain ultraprep primer & sealer or the Bondall Monocel All Purpose Timber Sealer a go.