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10th July 2009, 01:41 PM #1New Member
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Electric Guitar Neck Maker Required
Hi
Im new this forum so hi, Im Paul, an English guy living in Melb
I developing this idea of building a series of small-scale mid-range electric guitars by bringing together the skills of a small number of craftsman (and me). At the moment i'm costing things out and would like to discuss details with a wood craftsperson who can make electric guitar necks, including fretboard and would like to get involved. I would provide plans, specs, drawings and/ or sample, and initial order will be for 4 off, hopefully becoming a regular thing.
I'd appreciate any interested people to drop me a line and see if we can work something out.
cheers
Paul
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10th July 2009, 05:49 PM #2
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10th July 2009, 06:37 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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What's not to understand Andy B? You really are crook!!
This guy (Paul) wants to design guitars, and he is looking for a few people to do various bits of the building for him. He'll design the axes and do some building, but he's obviously keen to find someone who will build the necks for his guitars / ideas.
He'll commission four necks off you to start with, and then see how it goes ... whether it's viable ... profitable ... whatever. A small group approach to boutique guitar making I spose.
Take it easy Andy ... don't knock yourself about!!
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10th July 2009, 08:00 PM #4
ahhhh i get it now,
interesting concept...
will he be selling these under his own name?
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10th July 2009, 10:10 PM #7New Member
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Guitar Neck Makers
hi and thanks to all for the posts.
you got the concept exactly right, better than i did actually. To fill in the gaps I intend to sell the finished guitars, hopefully for a profit and if so reinvest the profit to commission and make another batch.
I'll be doing the design, building, set up, marketing, whatever, but I dont have the time or skills to learn to make necks.
I'll be selling them "under my own name", but maybe also add a brand name, just need to understand where that would put me commercially.
thanks again guys and hopefully we can give it a shot.
cheers
Paul
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11th July 2009, 02:49 PM #9Member
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How many diferent styles of necks do you require?...If you want to sell the guitars at a reasonable price to make profit to invest in making more, getting someone to make you a neck from scratch is going to probably cost about $300.00 per neck or more I'd imagine, I don't really know, perhaps someone can give us an idea of the cost. When you talk reasonable price range, what is that? because it's different for everyone.
Is it between $700-$1000.....or $2000-$3000?,..??,?? Personally, all of the guitarists I know and have know for a long time, might invest more than $3000.00 once or twice every 5 years, on the other hand they spend around $1000-$1500 on a guitar every year. Some of the guys I know own big collections of guitars. Most I know own three tops, and they haven't had a need to buy anymore.
What market are you wanting to capture? Do you want to sell one guitar(keep your day job!!) a month or 10 a week?
The other problem I imagine would be, aside from cost, is, how long is it going to take someone to build you 4 necks from scratch? a week, a month?
Sorry for all the questions but the business person in me is interested in what you are trying to do.Last edited by GhostGuitarist; 11th July 2009 at 06:01 PM. Reason: adding to info.
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11th July 2009, 06:16 PM #10Retired
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Electric Guitar Neck maker
Hi Paul, the neck is the one piece that requires the most work, some of the guys is the forum are allready accomplished builders I don't think they would be interested in building necks only, with your name as the brand.
The only way this would work is if you were to have a brand name and you found a few talented luthiers and you all worked together, this would help with set up costs Etc.
Cheers Bob
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11th July 2009, 06:31 PM #11
hmmm thats where you are going to have your main problem,
selling someone elses work under your own name,
i would say no one will agree to sell you hand made necks to sell as your own....
the neck is the main part of an axe,
and an axe will only be as good as its neck.
theres a fair bit of work (both hand and power tool) in making necks...
theres also a fair bit of time thats put into it...
as Ghost said, you are looking at minimum 300 each,
then again, with the price timbers going for, the price wil be effected by that...
you also need to think about nuts, truss rods, fretwire, inlays, what machine heads you will be using, its all gonna cost, also most important, whether or not someone elses neck carve is going to feel the way you want it to...
my opinion, it is going to cost you more buying hand made necks and trying to make them compatable with your own bodies and selling that as custom than it would be to buy the wood and make the whole guitar from scratch....
but good luck, if you want to give it a go, go for it man
on a side note, this isnt devries is it?
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11th July 2009, 07:00 PM #12New Member
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some answers
I can answer a few of the questions, (the easy ones),
The 4 necks will be the same. The 4 guitars i build will be the same. the basis of the business plan is to try to lever some economies of scale, even with the small batch sizes and to find the most lucrative market without any collosal outlay and investment. and its got to be fun too.
All of the parts will be basic with the most effective detail for the lowest cost.
The primary market will be the budget-replacement/upgrade market, by that I mean the second guitar purchase after outgrowing their $200-$300 first guitar.
I dont want to say anything about price or quantity at this time.
I wont be giving up my day job,
cheers
Paul
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11th July 2009, 07:34 PM #13SENIOR MEMBER
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Alright ... so Bob, Floody, and Andy B aren't in. And nor am I
But don't under-estimate the attraction of being part of a start up, small operation that might just find a niche. I doubt anyone is going to get seriously rich out of this any time soon ... but I think a few people on this forum would love the buzz of seeing their work sold to others.
Keep us posted Paul ... let us know if this flies.
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11th July 2009, 08:21 PM #14Retired
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Hi dadovfor, I am not knocking Paul, this could work but not selling under his own name. It needs to be a brand name also they would have to be bl..dy good, as I stated before there is some talented builders in this forum who are already selling guitars out there, and the market within Australia is only small, so to me the only way is to build that something special and find a market for custom builds like Stu has, there is also another talented young builder in this forum who I will not name, sworn to keep a secret, who very soon will be starting his own company, by all means have a go Paul but don't rush and I am sure you will find someone to work with.
Cheers Bob
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11th July 2009, 08:51 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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I'm guessing his user name "Curst Guitars", might become the brand name?
I didn't think you were knocking him Bob ... I think you and everyone else is being super realistic about the challenge that is ahead of Paul if he gives this a go. There's already some valuable feedback from some experienced builders .... and in your case, a key supplier. And I'll bet Perry could give him a massive dose of reality too.
But whatever Paul ends up doing .... POST SOME PICS!!!!!!!
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