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    Default Stew Mac's Dreadnought kit.

    Hi,

    I was just wondering how thw cost of the Stew Mac kit compares to sourceing and making an acoustic guitar from scratch.

    For instance, the cost of this kit http://www.stewmac.com/cgi-bin/hazel...l&CURRENCY=AUD

    with the mahogany dovetailed neck is $440 AUD.

    For that you basically get everything bar the machine heads. I'm just wondering if you can buy the individual components/timbers for less than that.

    I'm not ready to build an acoustic (although I plan to get arouind to it one day). I guess I'm just curious.

    And yes I can see that it would be much more of a test of skill and probably more satisifying to make a guitar from first principles.

    Cheers
    Craig

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    Craig,

    I'd be thinking you can get some pretty flash timber for $8,000 per cube. Would there be more than 5% of a cubic metre in a guitar?

    Just wondering. I've promised my Son In Law that when he finishes his trade qualifications I'll buy him the materials for this:


    (from:http://www.edromanguitars.com/newsite/guitars/jaros.htm)

    So I'm rather interested you see!

    Must pay Dave Kirby a visit in Mooloola.

    Here are his prices from a year ago
    QUEENSLAND MAPLE
    Clear grade 1 in. 2,100.00
    1 1/2 & 2 in. 2,400.00
    Quarter sawn boards available - instrument grade 2,600.00

    SILKY OAK
    1 in. back and quarter sawn mix 1,650.00
    200mm wide and wider, including large slabs 1,850.00

    YELLOW WALNUT
    Clear grade available in 1 and 2 inch 2,600.00

    MAPLE SILKWOOD
    Quarter sawn instrument grade AAA 2,950.00
    Cheers,

    P

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge View Post
    Craig,

    I'd be thinking you can get some pretty flash timber for $8,000 per cube. Would there be more than 5% of a cubic metre in a guitar?

    Just wondering. I've promised my Son In Law that when he finishes his trade qualifications I'll buy him the materials for this:


    (from:http://www.edromanguitars.com/newsite/guitars/jaros.htm)

    So I'm rather interested you see!

    Must pay Dave Kirby a visit in Mooloola.

    Here are his prices from a year ago


    Cheers, P
    Umm be carefull here I have heard some pretty bad stories about ed roman
    ray c
    dunno what's more fun, buyin' the tools or usin' em'

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_picker View Post
    Umm be carefull here I have heard some pretty bad stories about ed roman

    ive been browsing his site a bit, and he does seem a bit shady. he seems to simply say his stuff is the best and talk everyone else down.
    he gives information in a way that sounds like he knows what is best for the person reading the site, thats probably the worst thing about it. he does bring up some interesting ideas for builders, but i think he makes problems seem alot bigger than what they are to make his guitars seem the best. then he proceeds to sell all the other guitars as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_picker View Post
    Umm be carefull here I have heard some pretty bad stories about ed roman
    Thanks picker, the pic is about as close as we intend going, I used it to illustrate the timber and think it only fair to acknowledge the source, rather than just post someone else's pic.

    Cheers,

    P

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge View Post
    Thanks picker, the pic is about as close as we intend going, I used it to illustrate the timber and think it only fair to acknowledge the source, rather than just post someone else's pic.

    Cheers,

    P
    check out alt.guitar for ed roman horror stories just for a laugh
    ray c
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    Craig,
    My first guitar was a Stewmac OOO. I highly recommend their kits however I guess it really depends on your ability/skills. You will get the supplies cheaper in Australia but if you need the sides bent etc, you'll run into a hurdle.

    The greatest expense is the postage. It cost me US$105.00 to get my LMI kit delivered.

    I am searching around at the moment for local suppliers. The cheapest I can get my wood supplies is AU$250 + postage, but that it the raw supplies with no servicing.

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    I'll get some more details, but I do believe one of the AAMIM members in Brisbane produces a good quality kit for around $200 (timber only).

    Might be worth checking out, I'll post details when they are to hand.

    Cheers,

    P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teds View Post
    Craig,
    My first guitar was a Stewmac OOO. I highly recommend their kits however I guess it really depends on your ability/skills. You will get the supplies cheaper in Australia but if you need the sides bent etc, you'll run into a hurdle.

    The greatest expense is the postage. It cost me US$105.00 to get my LMI kit delivered.

    I am searching around at the moment for local suppliers. The cheapest I can get my wood supplies is AU$250 + postage, but that it the raw supplies with no servicing.
    Thanks. Yeah what I was thinking was that for a first attempt a kit might be good because you can learn the fundamentals of construction without also having to learn the "tricky" bits straight off.

    I downloaded the PDF file of the construction instructions and they do seem to be very comprehensive.

    Postage does sound like a bit of a killer though. Brings the total cost of the guitar to around $600 which is really getting up there.

    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge View Post
    I'll get some more details, but I do believe one of the AAMIM members in Brisbane produces a good quality kit for around $200 (timber only).

    Might be worth checking out, I'll post details when they are to hand.

    Cheers,

    P
    That would be good Midge. A local option would be much more doable.

    Cheers
    Craig

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    You can go to Gilet Guitars. Gerard Has a nice kit he's put together for about $470.00.
    Thommo

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    Hi Craig,

    If you dont intend turning into an obsessed wanna-be luthier like myself then the kit will probably work out a bit cheaper than buying in raw wood and parts. I think the kits usually have the neck dovetail already roughed out don't they? That alone is a time and cost saving (no jig building required).

    Overall advice...if youre not sure if youll like guitar building then definitelyy go for a kit. If youre already hooked and theres buckleys chance of you chucking it in then it doesn't really matter. Youre going to have to start from scratch eventually so you might as well do it from day one. You can also do what I do and buy my wood in bulk and save a bit on freight. I generally never buy less than 10 tops or side/back sets in a single order from the US. Some companies also give discount for orders of 10 or more.

    Awhile back someone mentioned that LMI/Stewmac are no longer exporting kits that contain Honduras Mahogany due to CITES issues. Might be worth checking up on this one before ordering.

    Cheers Martin
    Whatever note you blow youre never more than a semitone away from the correct one....(Miles Davis)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge View Post
    I'll get some more details, but I do believe one of the AAMIM members in Brisbane produces a good quality kit for around $200 (timber only).

    Might be worth checking out, I'll post details when they are to hand.

    Cheers,

    P

    hey,
    which AAMIM member?

    i'd love to get a hold of that kiT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge View Post
    I'll get some more details, but I do believe one of the AAMIM members in Brisbane produces a good quality kit for around $200 (timber only).

    Might be worth checking out, I'll post details when they are to hand.

    Cheers,

    P
    Hey Midge, any update on this?

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    Sorry all, I've been asleep.

    Will make a phone call or two over the weekend!

    Cheers,

    Peter H

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    Latest edition of Acoustic Guitar magazine has an article on buidling kit guitars. Includes a listing of useful resources.
    Whatever note you blow youre never more than a semitone away from the correct one....(Miles Davis)

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