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Bevan,
I come back to this forum occasionally, recently because a friend alerted me to Ian's plane making. however my last post was back in August, and before that back in June.
There are some folk...

Lakeside was a house brand for Montgomery Ward, Chicago, Il
Saws on page 969 & 970 of the 1916 catalogue....

https://archive.org/stream/MontgomeryWard1916/Montgomery%20Ward%201916#page/n969/
...

For all the humor these create, they do have a place in our history and folk seem to relate to the basic standard of design and workmanship in them. Back in the 80s when very few were known, a...

LOL ..... I try and look at the them the same way my kids look at my most precious treasures, through glasses that bear a resemblance to a pair like these ones ^----$^$----^

I've seen so many variations in them, I'm pretty happy to accept the sharp edges (seen that before), and those ribs look like the riveted variety...I think I can just pick up the outline of a pin at...

I'll go back for another look ... do I really have to???
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They are both McConnel planes. Some had Pat Pend, some had Pat, some no mark.
If they aren't are the ugliest plane ever to have been dreamed up, I've not seen the worst, and I sell them as fast as I...

I'll take these.
Thanks,
Peter

Its a user made side rebate plane. for working the side of a rebate to open it up, or to make a dovetailed rebate...Many commercial makers offered a comparable pair or single plane for both options....

Ill take it,
Thanks ...
Peter

Hi Weaver,
My comment above "the "maker" of a poorly executed plane." wasn't directed specifically at your plane. I'm sorry if that's how you read it ... and I can understand my clumsy writing may...

Hi weaver,
I'm afraid you have been misled....
It is a common mistake, perhaps unsurprisingly sometimes made by tool dealers, to claim a name found ONLY on the blade set as the "maker" of a poorly...

weaver,
it doesn't have any of the "fingerprints" of the commercial makers.
Most the design choices the maker has made differ from the more or less standard form that all the commercial makers...

My Dad was a paint chemist from the early 1950s and he told us when we were very young (in the 1960s) that it was studies by a doctor in Queensland on kids back in the 1890s that was first to report...

Elan,
There is a huge amount of information hidden in that date!
The Patent date - 24th Dec 1867 refers to US Patent #72,443, one of Leonard Bailey's patents.
It was the key to the use of a back...

Hi Elan,
Since we moved to the Peninsula I've sold most of my Stanley tool, and patented plane collection. A decision about displaying them need to be made. Room wasn't available, and leaving them...

Hi Elan,
They are a pretty rare plane, and I've a real soft spot for them, for sure one of the most interesting planes Stanley ever made.
One of them was in the very first lot of vintage tools I...

Ian,
There is a #9 in there.
Cheers,
Peter

In NY around the same time Spiers was making mitre planes there were manufactures of very similar planes.
Like the UK they were retailed to high end workers through retailers like Hammacher...

Not having a clue seems to me where you start, and just go on from there to ridicule the people here who use and collect!! WHY come along like that???.


Yep,

Perhaps there were lots of folk...

As the chairman of the trade advisory committee for the jewellery industry in Victoria in the mid 1980s, which was required under the state government legislation, to write a curriculum and syllabus...

Hi Leanne,
Mine is made from 20mm ply.
Here are some pictures

http://www.petermcbride.com/temp/images/buzzer_guard02.jpg

http://www.petermcbride.com/temp/images/buzzer_guard01.jpg...

This made me giggle!

Cheers,
Peter

2 Chuckless keys | Trade Me

I'll try take some closeup pics over the next few days, and post them here ....

Peter

Premo .... nice stuff!

Matty (L.S.Barker1970) has a Premo 4 side moulder.
Here are a couple of clips of it running a picture moulding, pretty certain it was for it's maiden run.

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You've come to the right place ... beauty in old cast iron machinery is what it's all about here!



Cat,
I was doing some work for a bloke who sold motors, and the 3hp in 415v seemed to be...

Hi Cat,
I had the same machine for a while, and mine was painted a real bright blue.
Back when I had it, if memory is working right, we thought it was from mid 1920s through to about mid to late...

Hi danimac85,
Like the 2 blokes above - Rob & Stewie, the oil stones I have get flattened using Silicon Carbide grit on glass. I have 60 or 80grit and then 220 grit if I think it needs it. (pretty...

Huon,
I've though for a long time, the cheapest way to buy huon is in a secondhand boat. You might just about get the boat for free after you pay for the huon...am I right?

Peter

Maybe not in BC....but elsewhere, maybe all over the world, in traditional woodworking workshops it was a right of passage to make wooden boxes for your newly acquired OIL stones, after sharpening...

I remember a quite humorous reply I got from an ebay seller in the US many years ago...
Something like this.
.... don't need to sell this tool to you .... I just do it to keep the staff busy .. I...

All the Silky Oak I've had milled had sapwood that must be the favourite food of lyctus borer.
Don't depend on that being still there in your working out dimensions.

Some treat for it ... I tried...

Back in 2009 I made a little skew throat plane based on a gunmetal plane Rob (auscab) has.
It was a lovely fit in the hand, and was a delight to use. I decided to make one, and add the skew mouth to...

Ian,

I'm starting a new thread, and will try and explain it without a word of geometry and maths.

Cheers,
Peter

Kuffy,
I was wondering when the compound miter saw analogy would come up.

Edit:- sorry had a brain explosion there :C ... TABLE saw that should be!!!

You got it.
I'm doing the new thread...

Ian,

It did cross my mind about the veterinary work. I've spoken to a couple of surgeons my wife works for, and discussed the visualization in 3D. Since I was kid I've been able to stare into...

IanW,
If it's cool with you, I think a pictorial description of the key to the skew might be better in another new post??

Edit: woops, a new thread....not a post!

Cheers,
Peter

Ian,Thanks. Yes, that didn't include the drawing and dreaming phase of the plane making.
I've met you at least once in Melbourne that I can remember.... All the stuff is here, come here, down to the...

Thanks Stewie,
My mate bought a pair in cast gunmetal, one very like that one, and one with a curved base.
Very talented bloke, was raving about the straight bottom one, and showed me how he used...

Govest69,

I had a little time today to go hunting through some books to refresh my pretty reliable visual memory with some solid recorded information about your plane...
A dutch rebate plane with...

In the mood of wandering in and out of the topic a bit, or maybe a strenuous link.
just to give some kind of scale to the number of workmen using these tools, and how far removed we are from the...

'morning Ian
There are two types of plane there, the rebate and the shoulder plane.
Although they evolved over time to two purposes, having two different names also, that's not to sat they can't be...

Variation on the same theme, a handled rebate plane, but made in wood.
An early US Patent plane.
A Worrall's Patent, Aug 8th 1854, Made by Union Tool Co. For Alex McBride, Louisville, Kentucky....

Govest69

I'll go through it with some pictures. Here we go with pretty straight forward explanation about why I KNEW what was the thinking behind that Great Northern Rebate Plane.

Here are a...

Thanks for that!!!
That's Fantastic,
I was distracted for a while there, but back now.
I can see lead solder in there to hold it together. Rivets/screws as well.
Very nice work, done by someone...

Hi Paul, and IanW
I'll try and explain and clarify it for you. I was told by someone I respect to take a deep breath, not to walk away, and to describe what happened in as non-emotive a way as...

The wood wouldn't know!!!!

They both do the same job, The euro plane has an adjustable throat. Thought by many at the time time to be a valuable addition to a plane.

That's the point!

A poor...

Derek.....

what can I say.

a shop done modification .... to a shop made plane .... that didn't need to be made(12 inch long) ... modified by a user or buyer to use as a scrub plane.

OR ... a...

I just looked to see if I had a pic uploaded of one of mine.
Here it is.
Since I got this over 20 years ago in South Australia, I've restored it. The wood was rotten.
Another like it has been...

Not at all convinced that is the origin.

Where could you find a 12 inch / 300mm long, bevel down infilled, steel body shoulder plane to cut up?

I've seen purpose built planes that are a...