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    This is the TABMA deck joist span table if it...

    This is the TABMA deck joist span table if it helps anyone

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/utemad/joisttable.jpg


    cheers utemad
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    Think we will leave it lay in rest... I am not a...

    Think we will leave it lay in rest... I am not a fan of 90 x 45 joists for decks anyway and only use them when forced to.. I find 140's give a much better feeling deck with way less bounce .....
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    They are a frustrating piece of Sh#t that spend...

    They are a frustrating piece of Sh#t that spend most of there time stuffing up... I don't own one but my offsider does so i might aswell say i do by default...
    The problems as you say are that it...
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    1kva floor load or 2 kva.. decks in sydney are 2...

    1kva floor load or 2 kva.. decks in sydney are 2 kva and the spans are read off F5 not f7 anymore as pine has been respecced to f5 in the last 6 months...My suppliers issued us with the latest TABMA...
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    If you want to go low to the ground use F5...

    If you want to go low to the ground use F5 treated pine 6x2 for joists and bearers and join your joists into the sides of the bearer the same way the photo below joins it into the wall plate... This...
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    Call Larry McCully tell him i sent Ya ... Its...

    Call Larry McCully tell him i sent Ya ... Its bound to cost you more this way but atleast i will get some browny points out of it......

    By the way got another for you to look at in end of JULY...
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    Treated pine 90 x 45 spans 1300mm for continuos...

    Treated pine 90 x 45 spans 1300mm for continuos span thats over 3 or more bearers (TABMA DECK SPAN TABLE ) I am not a fan of 90 x 45 pine joist where it can be avoided as they do bounce when asked...
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    Nah we are all referring to Feast Watson decking...

    Nah we are all referring to Feast Watson decking oil
    Feast dont mention using it on decks ( SPAR MARINE ) and suggest it not to be used on seats either.. How do you find it holds up over time .. If...
  9. Never had a prob with the treads being too wide...

    Never had a prob with the treads being too wide before and yes we use 90mm boards ... If you want 180mm rise with 90mm boards you'll have to run the riser boards under the front of the tread boards...
  10. Dont lose too much sleep .. the guys 10 doors up...

    Dont lose too much sleep .. the guys 10 doors up are building a set of stairs and landing up to a front door ... 4 guys to build it and the treads are 190 x 45 with a negative nosing of about 50mm ie...
  11. OOOOOOOOh play nice people Cheap place for...

    OOOOOOOOh play nice people

    Cheap place for stainless delivered to your door right across australia

    miami Stainless

    http://steel-fittings.com/index.htm?gclid=CLKr_Limk5MCFQKiiQodpkxCyg
    ...
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    I can get smartbits if enough people want them...

    I can get smartbits if enough people want them but i will have to buy a box to keep the cost down .. I would do through ebay to keep it safe and simple and estimate a posted cost of $37.50 PM if...
  13. I can get Smartbits if enough people want them...

    I can get Smartbits if enough people want them but will mean i have to purchase a box to keep the cost real.. PM if your interested i'd do through ebay to keep it safe and estimate around $37.50...
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    How funny heres me thinking the topic would have...

    How funny heres me thinking the topic would have died in the a#rse with the first reply of reeds face down but obviously not......

    This might have to go with the topic of screws or nails which...
  15. They are distributed through stores but as i am...

    They are distributed through stores but as i am not local to you i would say to ring macsim head office and ask for a retailer who stocks them closest to you.. Macsim are a fixing company so a screw...
  16. Have you put your joists at 300mm centres?????? ...

    Have you put your joists at 300mm centres??????

    90mm merbau decking requires 2 screws per board for every joist to hold it securely in place

    By a "smart-bit" its a pilot and countersink in 1...
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    Hi MAte You have to run battens the width of...

    Hi MAte

    You have to run battens the width of the deck ... The first batten closest to the house would be say 35mm thick (70x35) the next batten 70mm thick ( 70x45 ) and the next batten say (90 x...
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    Yeah it will matter as treated pine grows algae...

    Yeah it will matter as treated pine grows algae as bad if not worse than hardwood.. Also treated pine dries out worse than hardwood and splits sooner with the little ridges curling up like spikes...
  19. Post a pic for all to see... Glad it worked well...

    Post a pic for all to see... Glad it worked well for you

    cheers utemad
  20. Anything metalic in direct contact with the...

    Anything metalic in direct contact with the hardwood decking is highly likely to leave a purple - black carbon looking stain which is near impossible to remove when the decks coating wears to a point...
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    cant you use power lift for that or would a...

    cant you use power lift for that or would a simple pressure wash do the trick and save on cleaner LoL


    Isn't it typical ..Answer everyone elses questions and noone answers the one you post...
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    Was waiting for someone to reply for you but...

    Was waiting for someone to reply for you but noone did!

    Nothing available is Aus as far as i am aware ... The US has sails that clip between the joists aswell... Your only choice is to fit...
  23. just rechecked that your deck is new... so stick...

    just rechecked that your deck is new... so stick with 2 coats and 1 after winter has passed which will give you a clean well coated deck for Canberras scorching summer..Never understood Canberra...
  24. Once again assuming its F & W deck oil 1 coat...

    Once again assuming its F & W deck oil

    1 coat sunday
    1 coat monday
    Rain Tuesday wont be a problem

    Third coat is possibly too much if the deck is brand new

    Id prefer to clean it and...
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    If you use 140 x 22 merbau i would want 12G 65mm...

    If you use 140 x 22 merbau i would want 12G 65mm type 17 counter sunk sq drive screws or for a jetty look stainless bugel batten screws ... The bugels aren't diy friendly though as you wont have...
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    I gather by the price on the s & d that is a 4ltr...

    I gather by the price on the s & d that is a 4ltr tin.... 10ltrs does about 20 - 25m2 for 3 coats...Or 15ltrs can do 20m2 on and old pine deck like my thread titled "spa n deck"

    Yes i do plug the...
  27. Frost wouldn't be as big a deal with spa n deck...

    Frost wouldn't be as big a deal with spa n deck as the first coat goes on wet anyway so as long as its not really cold your sweet and your coats are only 2hrs apart... 3 coats in a day on a cold day...
  28. When you say oil i gather you mean something like...

    When you say oil i gather you mean something like feast and watson not spa n deck.....

    In the morning you will need to wait for the day to warm and the 1 hour between coats on the F & W tin is a...
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    I could .....but prefer you pay me plenty to do...

    I could .....but prefer you pay me plenty to do it for you LOL


    cheers utemad
  30. You sure on that one? 2R + G = 550 to 700 we...

    You sure on that one? 2R + G = 550 to 700

    we build the deck stairs that are closed like yours with a riser of 170 - 190 and a tread of generally 4 boards (360mm ) as you have no nosing and...
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    Never thought of that ... a shot of liquid nails...

    Never thought of that ... a shot of liquid nails on the joist and a brad driven through on the angle would do the trick.. we definately are onto a winner here.. i can hear the timber merchants...
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    No need to go to 7G to get a small head size as...

    No need to go to 7G to get a small head size as you can get 8-10G trim heads which give you the thicker screw with smaller head size....

    Personally i hate small headed screws and trim heads as...
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    Gees that'll incrase your lineal to m2 rate to...

    Gees that'll incrase your lineal to m2 rate to something like 40 lineal / m2...

    Might try that as a new selling pitch could be a winner but i would need seriously long screw to fix it down
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    Hi srohara We use Feast watson as our default...

    Hi srohara

    We use Feast watson as our default deck oil.. I use walnut because its the best compromise between darkening it but not putting a fake looking tint over the top....

    I wouldn't put...
  35. Thread: Spa N Deck

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    You would think so but being a rental they dont...

    You would think so but being a rental they dont care.. I sent photo's along with the invoice which included other building works and the total was all that interested them.. It was done more because...
  36. Thread: Spa N Deck

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    Got so excited nearly bumped myself clean off the...

    Got so excited nearly bumped myself clean off the front page HahA

    Looks like someone has too much spare time on his hands today LOL

    cheers utemad
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    Heres a link to a resto i posted using spa n deck...

    Heres a link to a resto i posted using spa n deck

    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=71734

    cheers utemad
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    Hi Lottebum I thrown own a thread on resto...

    Hi Lottebum

    I thrown own a thread on resto of a deck using spa n deck in merbau ... thought the colour might be of interest if you can't get all the coating off

    cheers utemad
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    I had a spare minute today so have thrown on a...

    I had a spare minute today so have thrown on a demo deck resto using spa n deck for all who might be interested

    cheers utemad
  40. Thread: Spa N Deck

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    Spa N Deck Restoration with Pics

    Hi everyone

    Just thought i would post a few pics and details on a deck we recently restored as it seems to be a common interest to most...
    The deck whilst being plane and boring to look at...
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    Really simple one ribs DOWN Ribs are to give...

    Really simple one ribs DOWN

    Ribs are to give ventilation between the top of the joist and the underside of the decking

    cheers utemad
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    We have pulled apart tonnes of old hardwood...

    We have pulled apart tonnes of old hardwood decks.. the rot is in the top of the joists caused by the split from the nails and lack of ventialtion to dry out the joist .. the decking does get minor...
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    Hi Matterhorn Not to be picky but spa n deck...

    Hi Matterhorn

    Not to be picky but spa n deck is a water based acrylic not the same as deck oil nor are the two compatable...


    Doing end joins with spa n deck is a mission as your spose to...
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    I gather you used 50mm titadecks... 65mm...

    I gather you used 50mm titadecks...

    65mm titadecks are both fatter and longer and are better suited to treated joists

    Stick with the screws if they are working for you

    cheers utemad
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    I'd build it for you but then i would have to ...

    I'd build it for you but then i would have to

    CHARGE YOU lol

    Sorry to break it to your engineer but the timber is no longer F7 its now F5 and the code has been rewritten to suit

    ...
  46. Thread: Waldo's Deck

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    She's coming along nicely ... Can i ask a...

    She's coming along nicely ... Can i ask a question.. why are the stringers trated pine?

    Cheers utemad
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    Second that one on stump size... Your problem...

    Second that one on stump size...

    Your problem is footings size and depth and the reactive nature of your soil...

    Do you have water issues on your block or the complete opposite and super...
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    Depends what thickness your 6 inch board is 18 or...

    Depends what thickness your 6 inch board is 18 or 22mm
    coil guns are a cop out and cant hold a 90mm board let alone a 140mm board..

    the nails are 50mm long and if your decking is 22mm thick...
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    Space your bearers further apart and use 6x2 pine...

    Space your bearers further apart and use 6x2 pine joists cause at 1500 you will need 4x2 hwd as pine only goes 1300 continuos span

    6x2 pine will go 2800 continuos although it will bounce at that...
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    Its a fun job isn't it... Routing all the grooves...

    Its a fun job isn't it... Routing all the grooves under the treads and all the scribing and planing.. I wouldn't quote it again unless i knew the person.. I had a call for exactly the same thing...
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