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21st October 2004, 04:48 PM #1Illegal alien
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Website for Vicmark lathes??
Is there one? Google gave me nothing.
As I mentioned in my previous post, Records and Cobra are the standard tools of the trade up here.
Problem is that they are tad too light for making VERY large bowls due to 3/4hp motor and their overall weight.
My teacher mentioned Vicmark lathes as one good option.
They are apparently made in OZ and are solid as #%&?.
Are there any other Oz made lathes I should take a look at?
Convert me!
Many thanks,
Mikko
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21st October 2004, 05:47 PM #3Illegal alien
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Thanks!
Beats me why Google did not spot this......
Cheers,
Mikko
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21st October 2004, 07:47 PM #4Retired
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Try the DVR.
http://www.teknatool.com/
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21st October 2004, 08:11 PM #5Member
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Mikko,
Vicmarc Lathes stand head and shouders above the competion. The quality is excellent, the VL175SEVSM with infinitely variable speed with high torque all the way, on board electronic read-outs and Fwd/Reverse takes some beating.
Go for it !
Geoff
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21st October 2004, 08:22 PM #6Illegal alien
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Looks pretty good to me!)
Only thing that I'm slightly concerned is the very limited over bed capacity.
Vicmark VL 300 allows plenty.
This outrigger of Nova seems pretty neato to me.
How is the price compared to VL 300?
I managed to find price only for Nova 3000.
In all honesty, the prices for Vickmark VL 300 seem astronomical!!
Re-rigged Graduates tend to cost half of that!
Keep it coming guys!
I'm VERY grateful for your assistance.
Cheers,
Mikko
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21st October 2004, 09:30 PM #7
G'day.
I have a Vicmarc VL300ESVX, complete with Terry Baker's Autograph on it.
It's my favourite lathe, I've had up to 5 lathes at one stage & I still have 4.
I haven't tried the DNR but I have seen one, it seemed a bit 'lightweight'
compared to my Vicmarc.
I have a Jet JML-1014 Mini Lathe for small stuff & I throw it in the back of
the ute to go to Turnout weekends.... the Vicmarc is too heavy for that.
I like the Jet but I love the Vicmarc & could do without the Jet if it wasn't
so portable.
I have a Childs Master Chuck,
Bonham 130 Lever acton Scroll Chuck,
a Teknatool Supernova T bar chuck,
a cheap chinese/tiwanese Mini Nova (copy?) lever action chuck &
2 Vicmarc VL140 Lever action Uni-chucks.
I use the Vicmarcs for my heavy work, roughing out etc.
One has a set of step jaws on it & the other has a set of shark jaws.
I use the Childs Master chuck on my old ShopSmith.
The Bonham goes on my giant, home-made, pedestal lathe.
The Mini Nova goes on the Jet & the Supernova can go on the Jet &
the Vicmarc & I have Cole jaws & pin jaws for it & it is used for
my finishing work.
Anyway, enough bragging, the Vicmarc stuff is damned good but the
Teknatool Supernova chuck is also very good quality, it is finished in
such a manner that it doesn't go rusty like all the others do.Cliff.
If you find a post of mine that is missing a pic that you'd like to see, let me know & I'll see if I can find a copy.
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22nd October 2004, 10:21 AM #8
I also have a Vicmarc 300 variable speed. it is a very solid dturdy lathe. i would imaging the larger engilsh lathes would of similar build (graduates etc) and would be a little cheaper due to freight costs (could be wrong??).
I have used a Nova DVR and it is a good lathe but definatly dosen't have the same feel as the Vicmark 300 - mind you there is a difference the price of the lathe and accessories but the Nova feels flimsy in comparison. The tool rest and tailstock is about half of the weight or less. All of the Nova's weight seems to be in the motor which by all accounts is the lathes strong point.
It all comes down to cost, the Nova's offer good value and quality in their price range but if you want to turn larger pieces the extra bulk and strength of build in the bigger Vicmarks and larger lathes is reassuring. When I retire my wife says she'll buy me an "Omega Stubby" - come on old age.
I have a very large Mahogany blank (approx 580mm in diameter X 400 approx) that I will be roughing out on the weekend that will test the lathe. The blank is too heavy for me to lift on my own.
All the Best Peter from Darwin.
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22nd October 2004, 04:20 PM #9Hewer of wood
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The Vicmarc 175 comes with a stand, is 1 m between centres, and has a really solid outboard turning setup - a heavy steel post that transmits the forces to the floor, not to the stand.
Cheers, Ern
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22nd October 2004, 05:41 PM #10Illegal alien
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Thanks guys.....
Now I'm even more confused.
Yes, price is an important factor here for sure.
But then again, there is nothing I hate more than buying something and immediately noticing that I need to upgrade soon.
DVR motor seems VERY appealing to me. Then again, the rest of the body may be too light for some of the work I plan on doing.
The motor on 175 is 750W.....
That makes it a no-go to me.
I do not need much between the centres capacity....I really meant swing, sorry.
Peter, please let me know how that mahogany piece worked out.
It's pretty close to the largest pieces I can find up here...and our species are not even close to being that heavy.
To be honest, the DVR with 2hp motor is still looking better to me as I'm not that fond of fiddling with bands.
Also, our native timber is not as heavy as the stuff you lucky folks have down there.
What about making DVR more "heavy" by making heavier legs for it??
I'll bolt is to the floor for sure and can easily have a superheavy platform made for it.
The outrigger for Nova seems more than satisfactory to me....I'm used to that flimsy Record thingy.
Vicmark totally reeks of quality and solidity, but....I really find it hard to justify the pricetag (my car goes for less) and DVR simply seems much more hasslefree to me.
I'll turn some larger pieces from time to time, but most of the work will probably be considerably less than 700mm in diametre and the blanks likely to weigh less than 25kgs. Will DVR handle this if I make sure it has reasonable amount of ballast and bolted to floor?
Now that you know the needs, will DVR manage?
Current puny Record 0.75Hp motor sure can not.
Thanks,
Mikko
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22nd October 2004, 06:32 PM #11Hewer of wood
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Difficult choice Mikko.
The 175 has two speed ranges - so you get to change belts for low speed and extra torque - and in the UK it's now being advertised as having a 1.5hp motor rather than the 1hp.
But the DVR seems to me to have better electronics and the virtue of direct drive. You can buy bed extensions if you need to, and build your own stand.Cheers, Ern
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22nd October 2004, 06:58 PM #12Illegal alien
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So you recon bolting it to a 1 ton block of steel and concrete would do the trick?)
The bed is so short that if it is well mounted on supersolid platform I dare to trust that there will be very little or no play. There appears to be very good securing points on the bed
Any takers for this setup?
Thanks,
Mikko
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22nd October 2004, 07:24 PM #13Hewer of wood
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Mikko, one of the turners posting in the virtual world of the web whom I respect the most, Lyn Mangiamelli, has a DVR 3000. Search rec.crafts.woodturning for his posts.
He likes the DVR, and that counts for a lot as far as I'm concerned.
I have the 175 but it was a close call vis a vis the DVR. At that time three years ago, the DVR wouldn't go slower than about 250 rpm if i remember and that was a clincher for me (and its lousy outrigger). That's now changed I believe and it will go slower. And you don't need to change belts to get the full speed range.
You can make your own stand, or get one welded up for you. You just need a heavy level top. In fact, I did that with the 175 just to save a few bucks - I bought the bench version.
In fact, if you're going to do a lot of bowls and deep hollow forms, a short bed is a good idea because you can stand in front of them. A swivelling headstock is fine as long as the banjo and rest will reach our far enough in front of the piece.
Hope this helps,
ErnCheers, Ern
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22nd October 2004, 08:06 PM #14Illegal alien
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Many thanks Ern,
That's pretty much what I wanted to hear.
DVR it is then. If I get rich one day, I'll go for the Vicmark 300...maybe.
As I understand the DVR is currently capable of going 100RPM...so that's sorted.
If you do not mind me bothering you once more....
What is the problem with the outrigger?
Compared to Record, this one seems luxurious!!!
This is a minor problem really as I can always construct my own....the Vicmark way if needed.
You guys have been of great assistance. My humble thanks. *bows*
I do not know why I'm drawn to OZ forums with all my hobbies...
Same happened with spearfishing...
Odd.
Cheers,
Mikko
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22nd October 2004, 09:55 PM #15Hewer of wood
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Yeah, that's what I recall ... down to 100rpm. Nice kit - you won't regret it.
When I was last researching, the outrigger was attached to the bed and a bit on the flimsy side. May have been beefed up since. Some people fabricate their own on the principle of a standard fan - wide base, heavy post etc.
It's all about reducing chatter and vibration. I'm a fan of minimal overhang for this reason - except when I'm flinging the motorbike around the twisties } ... A solid post on a stable base; heavy curved tool rests of different radii for bowl turning matched with small gouges and fine cuts. Cuts down on the sanding!
Oz turners on the web are wise, generous, modest and humorous - that's why you're drawn to us ;-} Now where'd I leave the toilet paper?
(PS what drew you to Finland?)Cheers, Ern