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22nd November 2011, 10:12 AM #226Senior Member
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Some interesting thoughts here about the the younguns. At the Newport boat show I was rafted up to 3 young blokes (mid 20's) who were restoring a sea boat (named "little Dutches") off the H.M.A.S Dutches. they were doing a great job and enjoying the work ( they took it for a run each day). The guys fell in love with the Auk and asked if I could build them one I suggested they could build one them selves and probably do a better job of it. As we parted company on Sunday they were still taking about a new wooden tender. Stay tuned .
Ian L
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22nd November 2011, 08:24 PM #227Senior Member
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I'm a "young-un", and love the whole idea to pieces. I'm building my first wooden boat after rebuilding the one I had before it, and hope to continue to build into the future. I think my age simply gives me more time.
Granted, at the moment, I'm working with plywood as well as your traditional timbers on a Hartley TS16, but with a career in development, as I get older I will hopefully be able to devote more time to a lasting (and classy) construction.
The boatbuilding is simply one facet, and I build and repair everything I can.
EDIT: I think in years to come we'll see an attitude swing in the up-and-coming youth. There is a growing tide of young people nowadays who are equally apalled by the attitudes of their peers, and notably, of their older siblings.
The pendulum swings back, and I think there's a growing respect for competencies, abilities, and doing things off your own back. The thing that has happened through technologies nowadays is that doing "Amazing" things has become commonplace to these kids. Success is instant and often skill-less, and there are many for whom skill-less success is unsatisfying enough to pursue tasks that cannot be completed without effort. It's a small shift so far, but I think it's renaissance is coming.
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22nd November 2011, 09:01 PM #228SENIOR MEMBER
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Good for you !.
Yes , things do get in the way.
I can remember when we were first married , making just everything , because we couldn't afford to buy from the shops.
Making furniture , even the first childs bassinet .
So Asrainox , keep at it , you are right , you will value what you have made more so than if you just bought it from the shop.
I remember well a couple of christmas's ago , our children had all put in to buy us a fairly expensive gift , but in reality it was worth about a days paid work each.
My wife presented them each with a full size quilt , each one taking weeks to make , the look on their faces was priceless !.
I wish you every success in the future.
Regards Rob J.
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23rd November 2011, 09:04 AM #229
Good on you Asrainox.
I hope you are right in your statements.
It would be good to see some shift back to quality items, built for their long term value.
Show us some pics of your boat build, if you have the chance.
Paul.I FISH THEREFORE I AM.
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23rd November 2011, 09:58 AM #230Senior Member
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This is the post on my build - I haven't contributed to it for a month or two though. A little preoccupied lately, but work is progressing steadily.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f32/part-way-140014/
My comments about the change in attitudes comes from my own feelings aboutt hings, but also my experiences. I'm early 20's now, and am in my 2nd year as a high school teacher. Hopefully I'm right, but I'm seeing it in the kids I'm teaching, compared to the kids I grew up and went to school with.
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23rd November 2011, 12:14 PM #231
I remember your build now and just rechecked your link.
Great job.
I hope you are right about the young people. I do a lot of mentor programs locally.
For different reasons than just teaching skills of course.
A few years ago we built 3 boats here in my own workshop.
The boys involved did a pretty good job.
I don't know if they took those skills and values out into the world when they left school, but the programs are more about communication with older men.
I hope you can encourage some of your students to get interested in skill based hand crafted wood work.
Cheers.
Paul.I FISH THEREFORE I AM.
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23rd November 2011, 05:00 PM #232Senior Member
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I'm a wood-tech teacher, so I sure hope so! Starting with basic joints, small box-making, and then sky is the limit!
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25th November 2011, 01:40 PM #233SENIOR MEMBER
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Any change on the wood availability situation ?.
Regards Rob J.
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25th November 2011, 09:22 PM #234
Hi Rob,
We are getting some traction in the media - see
Tasmanian Country Hour Monthly Archive
And have a listen to the podcasts on Special timbers.
regards,
ADwww.denmanmarine.com.au
Australian agent for Swallow Boats, Bruynzeel Multipanel Plywood and Barton Marine Products
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25th November 2011, 09:59 PM #235SENIOR MEMBER
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Well Andrew , I guess that is the best way of putting it , you are getting some traction , and thats a good sign for the future .
Except for that crap from the greenie , gawd , what a pain he is !.
I'm hoping that things will get sorted out in the near future , if only you could put that greenie in a bottle , and cork it !.
Heres hoping , for the future.
Regards Rob J.
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26th November 2011, 05:09 PM #236
Where is the support from our local furniture manufacturers and specialist wood turners and souvenir makers. ??????
Paul.I FISH THEREFORE I AM.
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19th December 2011, 05:22 PM #237SENIOR MEMBER
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Any updates on this issue?.
Regards Rob J.
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20th December 2011, 09:45 AM #238
Not at the moment Rob.
A bit of Government in fighting happening here.
Keeps things nice and quiet.
Paul.I FISH THEREFORE I AM.
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11th January 2012, 02:39 PM #239
I see the watermelons are not happy Julia.......does the delay in implementing the ban mean logging continues or at least salvaging?
Mike
"Working to a rigidly defined method of doubt and uncertainty"
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11th January 2012, 04:08 PM #240SENIOR MEMBER
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Maybe someone switched the light on , and Julia finally saw what was happening !.
Rob J.
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