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24th July 2014, 10:10 PM #376
Shrinkage after drying on site
Thanks Christos, I''l go with your vote. Cheers.
Ian thanks for the information. I found the same from several sources.
What I can't find is the shrinkage for seasonal variation in relative humidity after the timber has dried.
My timber is typically 12%.
If the local relative humidity varies from 40% to 80%, how much will the timber moisture content vary and how much will the boards shrink with that range of change.
The boards will be "sealed" with a finish which should reduce the effect of changing relative humidity.
The only discussion on this an English document. They found tangential rates from 0.8% to 1.2% for eight different species.
My 2% is probably greater than what I should expect but that is a good thing.Scally
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24th July 2014, 10:28 PM #377
Scally
the local relative humidity will vary from less than 40% to about 100% (when it's raining).
movement of the door panels will also be influenced by whether, at some time of the year, they get direct sun light.
My guess (and it's only a guess) is that if the panels are near 12% now, this is as near to dry as they will every be.
My expectation is that once in place their MC will increase to somewhere between 15 and 20%.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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25th July 2014, 11:07 AM #378
Ian
If the moisture content gets up to 20%, how much would you estimate the 600mm wide board to stretch?Scally
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30th July 2014, 01:02 AM #379
Door Panel cutting
I checked the moisture content on the panels and they were all around 12%.
The first door was dry assembled and all the measurements checked. The panels were placed under the assemble door frames so I could pick the best area to use.
Saw cuts were made in all the tenons for the wedges.
The back section of the groove was removed for the glass panels. A brain fade and I put one saw cut on the wrong side of the frame. I cut a thin strip to fill the stuff-up and glued it in the cut. When the glued had dried I planed and sanded it down.
Hopefully it wont look to obvious after the finish is on the door.
The first two panels were cut to size.
A cove was routed around the edge for the panels to fit in the grooves. I extended it about 15mm into the panel to allow for movement and for looks.
Panels were sanded to #320 and the front sides have been given one coat of Danish oil.
Tomorrow I'll do the same for the other side.
I'll give them more coats after the doors are assembled.Scally
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31st July 2014, 12:28 PM #380New Member
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I really hate spending hard earned money for nothing!!
It isn't for nothing - imagine the issues with it being 6 cents the other way.
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21st August 2014, 12:49 AM #381
A front door
I finally have one door finished.
There was a distraction as I had to build a dining table for my daughter.
It is Grey Gum and very heavy.
The door panels have two coats of Danish Oil.
I intended to finish the whole door with Danish Oil but decided to use a Livos product.
It is called Alis and made for outdoor furniture and decks.
I like using their Kunos oil on furniture. It is easy to apply and give a good finish. The dining table has three coats of Kunos.
The Alis is brushed or wiped on. left for ten minutes then the excess wiped off. They recommend two coats.
I gave the doors, including the panels, three coats.
There finish is smooth and low sheen with little colour change. Outdoor finishes have a lot of pigments in them to help with UV protection.
Livos have a choice of piment colours to suit the timber.
The Livos company suggested I use the Boxwood pigment for my doors.
I am happy with the result.Scally
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21st August 2014, 11:06 AM #382
The table and door look absolutely stunning!!!!
The person who never made a mistake never made anything
Cheers
Ray
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21st August 2014, 12:39 PM #383
I see that you strapped the door to the wall.
I think the low sheen is a good choice. There is enough figure in the wood to show off without a need for a high gloss finish.
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26th November 2014, 11:18 PM #384
Front Doors for the Shed
It has taken a while but I now have all the doors on the shed.
Here are a few pics.Scally
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27th November 2014, 04:38 AM #385
Beautiful doors!
Pat
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27th November 2014, 10:34 AM #386GOLD MEMBER
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Looks great.
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27th November 2014, 03:09 PM #387
spectacular
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27th November 2014, 05:14 PM #388Senior Member
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Stunning! Hope the lawn mower gets better soon. ;-)
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27th November 2014, 10:47 PM #389
Door work
Thanks everyone.
Yes Rickey the lawn and many other jobs have missed out while I have been trying to finish the doors.
My shed isn't big enough to work on all the doors at once so they spent a fair bit of time on the lawn.
The lawn mower works fine its the operator who is slack.
The last pic is the package of Soltaire 180 hangers. They are rated to carry 180kg so should be OK for my 60kg doors.Scally
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27th November 2014, 11:03 PM #390
Fitting the hangers
The rollers slot into a corner bracket that is screwed to the corner of the door.
On the other two shed doors I chose a bracket plate that only screwed into the top of the door.
I didn't feel comfortable having a 60kg door hanging on half a dozen screw threads. These corner brackets wrap around the corner of the door with three extra screws going into the side of the door.
I routed the recesses for the bracket and a hole to provide clearance for the leg of the hanger.
When screwed on they look fairly neat and feel strong.
It was a bit tricky routing up and down the end of the doors but once I had the fence set and sorted out the technique it went smoothly.
The hardest part was turning the doors over to do the other corner.Scally
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