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  1. #1
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    Default Hi all its Shaun from Gladtone QLD owner builder problem with Widespan

    After some advice please. Purchased a Wide Span Country Kit Home,
    building as an owner builder. I am a qualified boiler maker/plant
    operator with 20+years experience. I have also completed many large
    building and home renovation projects, so I thought I would tackle
    building my own kit home. Started building the kit in April with no
    major issues that I want to mention at this stage but I need advice.&nbsp; <br><br>The
    roof/ridgecap/barge screws that were supplied to us with the kit have
    been advised to me by a builder with 40+ years experience, a qualified
    roof/plumber, the screw manufacturer (but he said he did not engineer
    it) and Wide Span's own engineer for that plan (thinks there may be a
    problem), were incorrect. Approximately 20% of the roof is screwed off
    plus every lap at every baton. The roofers noticed when they walked on
    the area that had been screwed, the screws were popping from the baton.
    They had previously mentioned to me that they looked to be the wrong
    screws before commencing screwing off, but I replied they were the
    correct screws as described in the Bill of Materials from Wide Span.&nbsp; I
    have spoken to everyone involved, including supplier of screws (not
    their problem), Wide Span (will not respond to emails or telephone or
    their so called helpline Shed Builders).&nbsp; <br><br>Roofers have had to
    mobilise and demobilise themselves and their edge protection and have
    advised that to correct the problem some of the roof sheeting will need
    to be replaced and all the sheeting will need to be moved 10-20mm which
    wont be cheap.&nbsp; I feel I should not be out of pocket for someone elses
    "screw" up.&nbsp; Cyclone season is nearing and I need this sorted ASAP.&nbsp; Any
    advice would be greatly appreciated.<br>
    left screw the one supplied less cyclone washer the other what it should have been

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    I can only speak from my experience in shed building.

    When screwing off a corry roof into metal battens- we would use a 12-14 x 35mm tek with seal
    If screwing off a Trimdeck Roof into metal battens- we would use a 12-14 x 45mm tek with seal.

    If it had insulation such as Anticon building blanket we'd typically use a Roof Zip for both Corry and Trimdek, M6-11 x 50mm.

    And we would obviously use cyclonic assemblies if it were cyclonic.

    If you look here at the Lysaght Referee (Bluescopes Manual) http://www.lysaght.com/files/dmfile/...itionApr09.pdf

    Say page 85 for Corry and so on.

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    A letter from your Legal Beagle should produce some results fairly quickly , or a call to the builders rego board, I would consult a qualified roofer (the guy who is doing the roof) and re screw the roof then make a legal claim against the supplier of the KIT.

    you might post this on the RENOVATORS section also, you will get a good response there
    Jeff
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    banjoping the screw supplied are 14gx42 sdx14042co manufacturer is ideal fasteners,they recomended a type 17?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabredog View Post
    banjoping the screw supplied are 14gx42 sdx14042co manufacturer is ideal fasteners,they recomended a type 17?
    I would suggest the correct screw is a M6.5 - 12 x55mm Cyclonic Zip per page 25 of the Bluescope Cyclonic Design Manual. http://www.lysaght.com/files/dmfile/...NTJune2012.pdf

    However, it probably also depends on what is in Widespan's stamped engineering for the structure. Which of course may still be wrong.

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