Thread: Which NAIL GUN do I need?
3rd Sep 2013, 10:24 AM #1
Which NAIL GUN do I need?
I would guess that this has been answered a million times but I have to dash off to work shortly (just a little retirement job) so forgive me for not taking the time to search. I have laid wooden flooring - it's called engineered flooring by some. I got SCOTIA as part of the deal, but I have finally decided not to use it and to purchase Pine Moulding 92mm X 18mm. The walls are PLASTER RENDER (not Plaster Board). I haven't got extensive use for a NAIL GUN, but I will use it in future as I enjoy simple woodwork and renovating old furniture etc.
I have never used a nail gun before and my knowledge of them is NIL. I usually buy decent quality tools but as a pensioner of a limited budget I can't afford the best and hate buying rubbish. Generally I like Makita Handyman sort of standard. Remember I am just off to work so and wanted to get this question off to you good folks as I have asked for help before and the result has been amazing, but I haven't as yet looked to see if Makita actually do nail guns so I am just referring to tool quality standard here.
So the obvious question is ..... what should I buy? I don't like hiring tools unless I would never use the stuff again.
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3rd Sep 2013, 12:41 PM #2
Im guessing that you dont have an air compressor and that you are looking at a fixing gun as opposed to a framing gun.
I think that a Project air compressor and a Project air fixing gun will get serve you well enough the whole thing for about $300-00
A Paslode fixing gun will cost you about $450 upwards before you buy the nails and gas at about $60-00 box
The compressor will also give you the ability to add other attachments but remember the small compressors are low volume air supply and direct drive so the cycle regularly.
You could look on Gumtree or Ebay for a secound hand Paslode fixing gun and when serviced by an accredited technician, will serve you well
Forget the small electric nailers, only good for craft type work (when they are working properly that is)
Just my 2cw anywayThe person who never made a mistake never made anything
3rd Sep 2013, 05:34 PM #3
3rd Sep 2013, 07:45 PM #4
I bought a compressor many years ago and a fixing nail gun, (nail size 50mm and 65mm) used for fixing skirting boards and fixing architraves. Since I had a compressor I have now added, blow gun for shifting sawdust, brad gun (6mm,10mm,18mm,25mm,32mm) tyre pressure guage,spray gun,air nibbler for sheet metal, framing gun(50mm,75mm,90mm) used to nail big bits of wood like stud walls, secret nailer for T&G flooring next purchase will be a die grinder (way cheaper version of a dremmel)
compressor is a project air with a large tank to reduce cycling(switching on and off) I have two more tanks I will connect inline "one day" to reduce cycling even more.
Re your plaster render is it over timber or blue board? Either way a fixing gun would shoot through no problems. If your render is onto a poured concrete wall or concrete render over brick wall then orange spaghetti and four inch nails is the best fixing method, masonry bit straight through skirt and into concrete feed in orange spaghetti trim with Stanley knife insert four inch nail countersink and fill over. ( probably would work with green spaghetti and a smaller nail too)
3rd Sep 2013, 08:05 PM #5
I don't know if the practice is used elsewhere, but in this house which we had built last year (in WA) ALL the walls are brick and then rendered. I am assuming that "Orange spaghetti" is like uncut wall plugs???
3rd Sep 2013, 09:14 PM #6
3rd Sep 2013, 11:27 PM #7
The only nailing gun that would do this is a heavy duty dedicated compressed air gun SPECIFICALLY designed for fixing framing to concrete / rendered walls, not suitable for fixing finished mouldings.
There are special high tensile nails for fixing finished mouldings and are driven by hammer but it takes a bit of practice and more often than not, they split the timber, not wort the effort or frustration.The person who never made a mistake never made anything
3rd Sep 2013, 11:58 PM #8
4th Sep 2013, 10:19 AM #9
use a 75mm nail instead. The nail has a smaller head and easier to fill and finish, a screw has a larger head.
There is 1 other method, just use liquid nails and hold the skirting in place with springing rods between the walls or a heavy objectThe person who never made a mistake never made anything
4th Sep 2013, 04:01 PM #10
Do as the last post said,fix on with No More Nails fast set and hold in place with bricks or similar,Ihave done this to brik.
4th Sep 2013, 07:44 PM #11
p.s. buy a compressor they are hours of fun. I mean they are a valuable asset
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