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    G'day all,

    Did something I wouldn't recommend, I was trying to lever some plant tree roots out of the ground using a shovel. The shovel snapped and now some of the handle is stuck in the metallic part of the shovel. I cannot get the broken part of the handle out of the shovel - it is welded:mad::mad: in. I have tried to drill it out, bang it out and made no progress. Could someone please tell me how I can get it out so that I can replace the handle. Thanking you in advance.

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    Simple, stick it in the fire and burn the wood away.
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    Not allowed to start fires where I live.

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    What Bodgy said.

    Use your gas BBQ.

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    A long auger bit or spade bit will remove a fair amount of the old handle. If the bit is long enough, by removing the centre of the handle, the remainder can be fairly easily collapsed inward allowing you to pull it out piece by piece.
    I wanted to become a brickie but my old man said "No son, learn a trade."

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    Buy a new shovel !

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    Tiger,
    Around our way if you leave a piece of wood on the ground in a cool spot the white ants will quickly take care of it. Happy to donate some to you!

    Realistically the BBQ is the best suggestion - don't make it too hot just let it get well done and serve with chutney.

    It has been (still is) one of those days
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    I don't get how you can have a bit of timber welded in to a bit of steel. I think you mean the pin that holds the handle in is welded in. Can you take a pic and post it?

    If it is the pin, use a centre punch to mark the end for drilling. Mark it as close to the centre of the pin as possible. Use a drill bit the same size as the pin and drill it from both sides to release it.

    Dan
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    Ive got a shovel Ive had for 30 years, only replaced the metal shovel twice, and the handle 3 times.


    Al

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    As DanP said, it should be just the pin holding it in, using fire to burn the handle destroys any temper in the steel and leaves you with a fairly worthless lump of steel. Rather than burn replace the shovel. If you can't get the wood out after removing the pin then chuck it under a bench, or somewhere dry and warm. After you have broken the new shovels handle the old ones wood may have shrunk enough to pull it out.

    JohnC

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    Once the pin is out of the way you can screw a coach bolt into the end of the handle stub (drill pilot hole), then pull the stub out using the bolt to gain purchase. Make sure you drill the right size pilot or you will expand the handle in the hole and make it very hard to get out.

    Dan (Fixing busted stuff is my specialty)
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    See Howard Molson - he's always got a new shovel

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    What Johnc said. DON"T burn out the handle. You'll only ruin a good shovel.

    If it is a pin, drill it, chew it, grind off the head, gnaw it, whatever. Then drill out the old handle. whack in a new one, and Bob's yer aunty.
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    Guys

    You dont just chuck the whole shovel on the fire, just the part that holds the handle. This is not tempered anyway, so the mild steel remains mild steel. Where I grew up, this was normal practice and the shovels, spades etc kept on digging and shovelling. You had to be careful with axe heads tho, just dont let them get hot enough to ruin the temper.
    Bodgy
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    Bodgy's got the right of it. 'Tis how we always gorn an' dun it.

    One imprtant thing: don't quench it! This means do NOT throw a bucket of water over it to cool it down. That will ruin any temper. Put it aside and let it cool down naturally, preferably in a warmish spot. If really concerned, put it in a tray of sand.

    Also works for sledgie's, axes, splitters and other timber/metal interfaces.
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