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15th September 2017, 06:24 PM #16Taking a break
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We use a 1/2"-3/8" reducer at work for the router that's set up with a finger-joint jig. It does 2" deep, full width (3/8" carbide spiral) in one cut. Only seen a bit work its way out once in 10 years. I agree that it's not ideal, but I see no reason to avoid such a setup if it's convenient.
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15th September 2017, 06:40 PM #17Woodworking mechanic
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In relation to my post above. Where I can buy collets assemblies, I do. I have a 1/2", 1/4" and 8mm for my Triton. I can't buy a 3/8" so I have to use a reducer for my 3/8" spiral bit.
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15th September 2017, 07:19 PM #18
That's fine in the circumstances you outline, but it's also, IMO, irrelevant to this thread as you're describing a commercial use - thereby involving all sorts of risk assessment and safety considerations of the person who owns the premises. The majority of readers of these posts are hobbyists and - as such - their expertise ranges from novice to skilled enthusiast. Particularly for the novice user, any risk of a less-than-ideal situation is to be avoided. As a user becomes more proficient and experienced, usually with the odd "near-miss" along the way, they can see and assess the likely risks better and act accordingly.
In a commercial operation such as you describe, the onus is on the employer and employees have redress if accidents happen, assuming that safety procedures have been followed. No such redress applies to the home user, which is why I firmly believe that dedicated collets are ALWAYS superior to reducing inserts and should always be recommended over them. A collet using a reducing insert will always require more tightening than a dedicated collet, not something generally appreciated by new users - and the degree of the extra torque required to close both the collet and the reducer around the cutter shaft has no known formula in my experience. Some will use the same degree of pressure regardless and may get away with it, some may not be so lucky. Others will over-tighten and then may be unable to retrieve the bit without damage in extreme cases (see another post regarding just this).
Please excuse the length of this diatribe, but I never have (nor ever will) be comfortable using or recommending reducing inserts (or chuck extensions, but that's a different reason).
Ray
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