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    Default Wiring the shed

    I have given up all hope of the sparky coming to finish off the shed and sick of tripping over three extension leads, so, Bunnies (yes Bunnies) came to the rescue with an Arlec 12m extension lead with a switched power point every 2m.
    Rated at 10amps, I got one and will see what it is like.
    Go and have a look, $29.95 each, cheapewr than a sparky.
    I plan on running the lead iin a channel and attaching the power point to a wooded block on the wall, end of lead will plug into existing power points.
    I only plan on running one thing at a time so overloading is not going to be an issue.
    Power points are fitted with lugs for screwing to walls.
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    Bum, there aint no bunnies at warrnambool.
    Great idea.
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    yet
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    Hi Iain, I thought that was what I caught a millisecond of on the tv ad the other night. I'd be very interested to see what you think of it as I could so use this myself.

    I didn't go to bunnies and get one a) because I forgot and b) I also spend way too much there so am only allowed to go 1-2 twice a month (ok, fortnight) - self-imposed.

    cheers
    RufflyRustic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain
    yet
    There is one being built but it wont open for months.
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    Psst...

    Hey Ian.

    It's not really legal to have a plug in item fixed to anything. Fixed as in 'fixed to a structure'...

    Just letting you know.

    Quiet and innocent voice off.

    I think it's a good idea. Gets you out of the ca-ca right now too.

    &^$$##@$^& sparkies, always unreliable, never turn up, never finish anything. Mongrels they are...

    No mentioning pots and kettles thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schtoo
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    Hey Ian.

    It's not really legal to have a plug in item fixed to anything. Fixed as in 'fixed to a structure'...
    But if the leads sit in large cup hooks they are not fixed to anything
    And if needed a rubber band around the cuphook
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    how can it not be legal . What , can you get arrested ?????? or are you saying a sparky cant do it or on a worksite? Just not sure what you mean by not legal ..

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    Not legal as in the chief electrical inspector walks in, pulls the mian fuse and you don't get power again.

    End of story.


    And yes, in certain circustances (highly unlikely) you might just be arrested and do jail time.

    All it would take is for a picture of the offending installation, and a vindictive type of person to make a phone call.

    In Victoria, they take that kinda stuff pretty seriously.

    Could a sparky do it on a jobsite? Yes, of course they could.

    Would a decent sparky do it? probably not.

    Would this one do it? Never.

    Not worth blowing a few years of apprenticeship, a few thousand dollars of schooling and testing, licenses, etc. and your livelyhood to do something as silly as flout a well known regulation, aka, law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schtoo
    Psst...
    It's not really legal to have a plug in item fixed to anything. Fixed as in 'fixed to a structure'...
    Then why does 99% of all power strip plugs have screw provisions behind them to mount them to a fixture?

    For the record power strip plugs are those plastic boards with between 4 and 8 plugs on them.

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    It's a screw 'provision' to let you permanently fix the strip to something?

    You sure?

    Last time I checked, they are always something that you can hang over a screw head, and lift off at any time.

    Take a look around, everything that plugs in should be able to be moved around, maybe not easily, but moved all the same.

    So things like ovens, lights screwed to the wall/ceiling, hot water units, etc. are all hardwired. Washing machines, dishwashers, etc. are all plugged in as they can and will move without too much trouble.

    The powerstrip I have here has magnets on the back of it. Good idea, especially hanging off the side of the PC's case.

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    Yes, it is a 'keyhole' type lug, phew, pick up $500, do not go to jail
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    Schtoo , you have me worried now . Better not let the chief electrical inspector see my work area . Think you missed my point . If you fix one of these in your back yard shed who will know . Obviously you cant do it in a work place . The only inspector i ever seen is doing the dishes right now.

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    I know of one guy (not a sparky) who got comprehensively nailed on something not dissimilar to this.

    I am pretty sure he never planned to be caught up with it either, in fact, I doubt he knew such a regulation existed.

    A combination of verbal boxing, a few phone calls, etc, etc. and I wonder if the guy is still waiting to get mains power back on.

    It's only been nearly 6 years, and the office was pretty adamant this guy never get juice ever again.

    I wouldn't expect another situation like to happen ever again, but to me, it makes sense to keep the things in plain sight in a state where they wont attract attention, especially the attention of some vindictive *&*&%...

    Saying that, it's nearly impossible for Joe Familyman to cross the regs, except on this one thing. I simply bought attention to it and a suggestion to not do it.

    Th clown above might have avoided his pennance if he had done the same.

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    Like Iain, I got sick of waiting for a cousin (electrician) to wire my shed. The electrical cable (and alarm system cable) was laid underground from the back of the house to the shed when we built, so I just attached a 10A plug on the house end and wired power points and lights in my shed. Never had a problem. Illegal, yes ... my only worry is the fire factor ... the house insurance wouldn't cover the damage. Maybe the safety switch will save me

    Cheers
    Tikki

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