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Thread: Japanese puzzle boxes
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9th May 2006, 08:02 PM #1Novice
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Does anyone know if there is any info available on how to make a puzzle box?
My research would suggest that the info is passed on from master to apprentice and the youngest of those is 60! It is a brain teaser just trying to work out the mechanism let alone trying to make one.I'm making this my life's work to master the puzzle.
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9th May 2006, 08:25 PM #2
Ahhh, Grasshopper. First you must walk this rice-paper without leaving a mark...
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10th May 2006, 05:26 PM #3
Which one did you have in mind?
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.
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10th May 2006, 09:02 PM #4Novice
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Zenwood, Sorry didn't know about different types, except for different number of moves. My own example of Himitsu-Bako is about 3 sun long and takes 12 moves to open. That will do nicely. I feel that it would be a real challenge for someone of my limited talents. We can all improve.
regards Ecca
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10th May 2006, 11:23 PM #5
Ecca
Try this site - he is the Australian Mr.Puzzle maker and has an extensive list of Links to other worthwhile sites.
Tony Ward
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11th May 2006, 02:21 PM #6Originally Posted by EccaThose are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.
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29th May 2006, 07:17 PM #7Novice
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Thanks for the website Tony. Have had a quick look to date but it does not appear to have any plans. I may have to go and live in Japan for half a century or so.
No I have not made one but was given one.
I'm convinced that to make a puzzle box in the trad. manner would test anyone one this site. As I said it could be a life time quest.
But isn't that what retirements for?
Ecca
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29th May 2006, 11:27 PM #8
Well, we couldn't work out the keyhole joint, so we've got no hope of sorting out the puzzle box.
See this thread: http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=31772
Good luck in your quest, Ecca.Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.
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2nd June 2006, 05:19 PM #9Newish Member
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Zenwood,
Just on the Keyhole joint, could it be made by using a 45 degree joint and sliding the faces together at 45 degrees. Looks like it would be the way to do it.
Mag
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2nd June 2006, 08:36 PM #10
Mag - check that discussion in Zen's link. It was discussed there - does not work. The keyhole part must enter the joined face from some side, and there is no entry hole.
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2nd June 2006, 08:51 PM #11
One of us is going to have to try to reproduce it...
Reproduce it. That is the only way to lay this discussion to rest... Otherwise it is like which came first, the chicken or the egg.
So far we have managed to reproduce two of his more intriguing joints: the Mizu (water)Character Joint used on his writing desk and the Hawks Nail Joint used on a beautiful chest.
The first thing to remember in trying to reproduce it is that it CAN be done. It was done before, and can be done again, once you figure out the secret.
I have a few things on the burners now and can't get around to trying that one yet.
Anyone else up for the challenge?“When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin. Audels Carpenters and Builders Guide, 1923 Theo Audel & CO. New York.
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2nd June 2006, 08:55 PM #12Originally Posted by javali
... Er.. Work in progress here. The concept has changed mid paragraph:
Cut his fingers first, then add the miters between the fingers after finger have been layed out, the entry holes are buried in the miters once the joint is assembled....
I feel like I'm on the right track here. I will take a small board and try this with a three or four fingers soon, unless someone else beats me to the punch.“When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin. Audels Carpenters and Builders Guide, 1923 Theo Audel & CO. New York.
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2nd June 2006, 09:13 PM #13Originally Posted by labolle
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