Wild Dingo
26th October 2009, 11:07 AM
Gidday mates been awhile eh
Okay so now Im settled in the red pindan of the Kimberley Ive been thinking of a camper again... yeah probably should have bought one when I had a good chance but well lets just say other things occupied my mind eh!
So now Im thinking... oh right the other one? well it ended up in bits before I sold the place and the one I built Ive made into a 6x4 box trailer for one of the son in laws... so now Im thinking of making or altering a trailer to fit what I see as my and Joshuas needs.
So Im thinking of either buying or fabricating a 10x5 trailer to my specifications... a car trailer would actually be pretty close to ideal... so thoughts go along the lines of if a bought one sheeting in the floor and building up the sides to about 24in high this then has a lid on it that has a false base with two 6x4 slide outs that would attach to either side for beds of the ground (detachable or fold up legs)... thinking about this after I posted Im now thinking perhaps making the slide outs into the sides of the trailer thus when camping one simply undoes the catches and slides the bed out from under the floor either side legs drop down and thats that!... one could then have a folding tent thing that collapes when its put away... anyway mattresses and swags along with camping fishing gear would store at the rear of the inside the 2ft high space, there would be lift up access into the front section that would house tools and spares... the new base (2ft of the actual deck) would then have 3ft high sides front sections fold down with built in ramps (this top section to house two go carts or beach buggy things) the rear section to house either 2 canoes or a small dinghy... along either side at the front would be 2x water storage (Im thinking about 80litres) and at the rear either side would be 2x fuel storage (again about 80litrs) Front of trailer (over drawbar) would have a spare wheel carrier to house 4x landcruiser spares... oh the wheels on this trailer would be landcruiser of course to match the new landcruiser I now have
Now me being me Im thinking of either beefing it up to meet my insanely overdone standards ie recall the little 6x4 with 6x2RHS subframe? that is the sizeings Im thinking of going with... perhaps even larger? 6x4 perhaps? mmm okay will think about it but Im thinking the subframe being 6x2 would be strong enough
The two side panels for sleeping have an alternative option Im considering that is that they stand side up to make the rear side of the trailer as in the sides of the trailer that house the canoes/dinghy double duty... now Im thinking that as I do want to take young Josh meandering both up here and over east there will no doubt be times when it phisses down with rain... so Im thinking somehow having packup fold out tent like things so that when one lays the sides down for the night a tent structure folds out and thus covering from the eastern states rain :2tsup: this of course could be changed to be a cage like affair that has the front say passenger side with hinges to fold down for access to the buggies and the rear tailgate again folding down for access to the canoes... oh and between the two sections Im thinking of putting a rail at the top of the sides that would have rubber mounts attached for the canoes to be tied down to... mmm okay this could be interesting Im now thinking of making it so the canoes sit ON TOP of the back section thus Id have more room for... STUFF :U and therefore a bloke could if he so wanted to carry such things as generators and other godawful noise makers! but anyway STUFF can be stored in the rear most area eh :2tsup: mmmm again thinking... if one wanted to become a bit of a grey nomad type one could of course carry ones tools and some timber welder etc in that area eh? mmm now that does sound worthy!! Home base here in Broome and become a wanderer doing markets when moneys needed and wandering the scrub when not... Josh at 14 going on 15 would LOVE IT... others would not but that would be their problem we would be too busy LIVING to worry about it :2tsup:
Now thing is Ive no idea if Im heading down the right path and really the only reason Im considering building or modifying is that there is nothing on the market that suits thus one must of necessity make it oneself right? RIGHT!... most seem to be of the 7x4 or 8x5 variety and due to the beach buggy canoe combo he and I are planning on this is simply to small and we would be living out of it for up to a month at a time in the scrub... so again thinking about it a built in ice chest would be handy mmmm okay thinking about it again... where the hell would I fit that?? has to be in the rear most section as the front would need to be stronger than the rear to take the two beach buggies weight... mmmm
So given that the trailer if a mod one would have to be lifted to fit the landcruiser wheels under it is there much difficulty in doing so?
What of the weight issues associated with... mmm there wouldnt be any if its a car trailer right! RIGHT SHANE!! duhhh I mean 2 beach buggy go cart things and a couple of canoes along with sundry camping stuff does not equate to a bloody car you goose! okay mates cancel that thought :2tsup:
Now Im guessing Id have to put brakes on such if I built if from scratch? Any suggestions there? is it difficult problematical etc?
Oh the false floor Im thinking 2mm sheet steel (I think I still have a line on some been awhile but I am slowly sorting things again so will check) and the sub floor or the slide out beds something simple like 1/4in ply slathered in epoxy and fibreglass they are just beds after all :roll: the steel work other than the subframe would be 1in x 1in RHS steel and the ramps for the go carts would be whatever the hell I can scrounge dig up find or steel :;
The rear most section of the trailer would have a slide out barbie on one side... so the fuel carrier must be movable either that or the containers themselves (gerry cans?) so that safety is all aokay
(note: All RHS steel may turn into galvanized depending on pricings)
Now what pray tell have I forgotten in all this? Other than a damned drawing that is and given yous mob have had some experience with me doin this sorta thing before you just know Im gonna be half done before I even begin a drawing!!! :U :U mmm that is unless one of me fine mates with a tad of time on there hands wants to whack something we can muck about with on whatever program your using nowadays which I wont bother even trying to get a handle on using since theyre all over my heads!! draw a pic scan it and post is my method... but hey Im in Broome now and well times at a premium when your in paradise!! :2tsup:
Being a car trailer it should be rated somewhere around 2 or 3 ton right? thats more than enough and I doubt Id load it anywhere near that weight... the reasoning I have for beefing it up or building it heavy is that I dont stay on the road much and tend to veer into some bush track I spot as Im going along so it needs to be strong enough to handle the shyte tracks I wander along sounds about right logical anyways :2tsup:
So there you go what do you reckon? All opinions reviewed and appreciated :2tsup:
Shane
Okay so now Im settled in the red pindan of the Kimberley Ive been thinking of a camper again... yeah probably should have bought one when I had a good chance but well lets just say other things occupied my mind eh!
So now Im thinking... oh right the other one? well it ended up in bits before I sold the place and the one I built Ive made into a 6x4 box trailer for one of the son in laws... so now Im thinking of making or altering a trailer to fit what I see as my and Joshuas needs.
So Im thinking of either buying or fabricating a 10x5 trailer to my specifications... a car trailer would actually be pretty close to ideal... so thoughts go along the lines of if a bought one sheeting in the floor and building up the sides to about 24in high this then has a lid on it that has a false base with two 6x4 slide outs that would attach to either side for beds of the ground (detachable or fold up legs)... thinking about this after I posted Im now thinking perhaps making the slide outs into the sides of the trailer thus when camping one simply undoes the catches and slides the bed out from under the floor either side legs drop down and thats that!... one could then have a folding tent thing that collapes when its put away... anyway mattresses and swags along with camping fishing gear would store at the rear of the inside the 2ft high space, there would be lift up access into the front section that would house tools and spares... the new base (2ft of the actual deck) would then have 3ft high sides front sections fold down with built in ramps (this top section to house two go carts or beach buggy things) the rear section to house either 2 canoes or a small dinghy... along either side at the front would be 2x water storage (Im thinking about 80litres) and at the rear either side would be 2x fuel storage (again about 80litrs) Front of trailer (over drawbar) would have a spare wheel carrier to house 4x landcruiser spares... oh the wheels on this trailer would be landcruiser of course to match the new landcruiser I now have
Now me being me Im thinking of either beefing it up to meet my insanely overdone standards ie recall the little 6x4 with 6x2RHS subframe? that is the sizeings Im thinking of going with... perhaps even larger? 6x4 perhaps? mmm okay will think about it but Im thinking the subframe being 6x2 would be strong enough
The two side panels for sleeping have an alternative option Im considering that is that they stand side up to make the rear side of the trailer as in the sides of the trailer that house the canoes/dinghy double duty... now Im thinking that as I do want to take young Josh meandering both up here and over east there will no doubt be times when it phisses down with rain... so Im thinking somehow having packup fold out tent like things so that when one lays the sides down for the night a tent structure folds out and thus covering from the eastern states rain :2tsup: this of course could be changed to be a cage like affair that has the front say passenger side with hinges to fold down for access to the buggies and the rear tailgate again folding down for access to the canoes... oh and between the two sections Im thinking of putting a rail at the top of the sides that would have rubber mounts attached for the canoes to be tied down to... mmm okay this could be interesting Im now thinking of making it so the canoes sit ON TOP of the back section thus Id have more room for... STUFF :U and therefore a bloke could if he so wanted to carry such things as generators and other godawful noise makers! but anyway STUFF can be stored in the rear most area eh :2tsup: mmmm again thinking... if one wanted to become a bit of a grey nomad type one could of course carry ones tools and some timber welder etc in that area eh? mmm now that does sound worthy!! Home base here in Broome and become a wanderer doing markets when moneys needed and wandering the scrub when not... Josh at 14 going on 15 would LOVE IT... others would not but that would be their problem we would be too busy LIVING to worry about it :2tsup:
Now thing is Ive no idea if Im heading down the right path and really the only reason Im considering building or modifying is that there is nothing on the market that suits thus one must of necessity make it oneself right? RIGHT!... most seem to be of the 7x4 or 8x5 variety and due to the beach buggy canoe combo he and I are planning on this is simply to small and we would be living out of it for up to a month at a time in the scrub... so again thinking about it a built in ice chest would be handy mmmm okay thinking about it again... where the hell would I fit that?? has to be in the rear most section as the front would need to be stronger than the rear to take the two beach buggies weight... mmmm
So given that the trailer if a mod one would have to be lifted to fit the landcruiser wheels under it is there much difficulty in doing so?
What of the weight issues associated with... mmm there wouldnt be any if its a car trailer right! RIGHT SHANE!! duhhh I mean 2 beach buggy go cart things and a couple of canoes along with sundry camping stuff does not equate to a bloody car you goose! okay mates cancel that thought :2tsup:
Now Im guessing Id have to put brakes on such if I built if from scratch? Any suggestions there? is it difficult problematical etc?
Oh the false floor Im thinking 2mm sheet steel (I think I still have a line on some been awhile but I am slowly sorting things again so will check) and the sub floor or the slide out beds something simple like 1/4in ply slathered in epoxy and fibreglass they are just beds after all :roll: the steel work other than the subframe would be 1in x 1in RHS steel and the ramps for the go carts would be whatever the hell I can scrounge dig up find or steel :;
The rear most section of the trailer would have a slide out barbie on one side... so the fuel carrier must be movable either that or the containers themselves (gerry cans?) so that safety is all aokay
(note: All RHS steel may turn into galvanized depending on pricings)
Now what pray tell have I forgotten in all this? Other than a damned drawing that is and given yous mob have had some experience with me doin this sorta thing before you just know Im gonna be half done before I even begin a drawing!!! :U :U mmm that is unless one of me fine mates with a tad of time on there hands wants to whack something we can muck about with on whatever program your using nowadays which I wont bother even trying to get a handle on using since theyre all over my heads!! draw a pic scan it and post is my method... but hey Im in Broome now and well times at a premium when your in paradise!! :2tsup:
Being a car trailer it should be rated somewhere around 2 or 3 ton right? thats more than enough and I doubt Id load it anywhere near that weight... the reasoning I have for beefing it up or building it heavy is that I dont stay on the road much and tend to veer into some bush track I spot as Im going along so it needs to be strong enough to handle the shyte tracks I wander along sounds about right logical anyways :2tsup:
So there you go what do you reckon? All opinions reviewed and appreciated :2tsup:
Shane