Vicmarc VL175 on ebay

[Ozkaban]

Hi,

I saw this Vicmarc VL175 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/WOOD-LATHE-VICMARC-VL175SH-WOOD-TURNING-LATHE_W0QQitemZ230399755609QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_BnI_Woodworking_Metalworking?hash=item35a4e54559) on ebay today. $3k for the whole kit, including outboard attachment. Pickup from Victoria.

No idea who the seller is, but it does look to be a nice lathe.

Cheers,
Dave

[Jim Carroll]

Wonder why david is selling his lathe.

May be moving onto something bigger ?

[GC]

That is SOOOOOO wrong.....
Wanted one for ages, then the month after I buy another lathe......

@W%%@$@!!& :)

GC

[Ozkaban]

Looks like it didn't sell for $3k.

Now relisted for $2,800 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/WOOD-LATHE-VICMARC-VL175SH-WOOD-TURNING-LATHE_W0QQitemZ230403991545QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_BnI_Woodworking_Metalworking?hash=item35a525e7f9)...

[rsser]

Murhpy's law GC.

Damn that's a good price.

[Big Shed]

Looks like it didn't sell for $3k.

Now relisted for $2,800 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/WOOD-LATHE-VICMARC-VL175SH-WOOD-TURNING-LATHE_W0QQitemZ230403991545QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_BnI_Woodworking_Metalworking?hash=item35a525e7f9)...

The $2800 is the opening bid, $2950 BuyItNow. Both prices dropped $50 from first listing.

I would have thought that's a fairly high price for a lathe that has seen a lot of professional use?

[rsser]

What wears out?

A few bearings?

Peanuts.

[Big Shed]

Motor? Armature? Bearings?

Starts to add up, what percentage of the new cost is his $2950 asking price?

[Calm]

Motor? Armature? Bearings?

Starts to add up, what percentage of the new cost is his $2950 asking price?


Check this out (http://www.cws.au.com/shop/item/vicmarc-vl175-stand-mount-evs-11kw) $4400 roughly without any extras

[Jim Carroll]

Motor? Armature? Bearings?

Starts to add up, what percentage of the new cost is his $2950 asking price?

maybe over dramatising this a bit.


A third below new so fair price but could be a bit lower , then again it is a Vicmarc so you do get good resale, not like an MC900 which looses 80% as soon as you take it out the door.

[Groggy]

The VL300 I got off eBay has seen a lot of use by Richard Raffan, then another turner who worked for him. If the bearings are showing any sign of wear then I can't pick it. Has anyone ever had to replace their bearings on a Vicmarc?

Motor and other components are still going strong too. As for price, well, I reckon it is not bad.

[Big Shed]

maybe over dramatising this a bit.


A third below new so fair price but could be a bit lower , then again it is a Vicmarc so you do get good resale, not like an MC900 which looses 80% as soon as you take it out the door.

Obviously the market thinks it is on the high side otherwise someone would already have snapped it up at the opening bid at the fall of the hammer on the first auction.

What percentage of new price did you pay for your VL300 Greg?

[Calm]

........................... Has anyone ever had to replace their bearings on a Vicmarc?
...............

DJ but he lives in that god forsaken hole that rains 360 days a year and drips off the trees for the rest of the time - too much moisture.:p:p:p:p:D:D:D:D

I agree with you Greg - i think there are extras more than the $4400 buys new. so $2900 / $4400 = 65% so not a bad discount.

Cheers

[Groggy]

What percentage of new price did you pay for your VL300 Greg?Umm. Well, I qualified as a bottom feeder on mine but I know I got lucky. Bit more than 50%.

[Big Shed]

Umm. Well, I qualified as a bottom feeder on mine but I know I got lucky. Bit more than 50%.

That would have been my guess as well Greg, so between $2200 and $2500, depending on what the extras are worth to the prospective buyer.

[Groggy]

Fred, I was very surprised to get mine for the price I did - gobsmacked in fact. Looking at this VL175 I think that it is not an unfair asking price. Maybe a hundred or so less may stampede the punters but someone looking for a Vicmarc would probably be circling at this price.

Up to the individual I guess but a bowl turner would get some good bits with that lathe.

[skot]

The one on ebay has the outboard attachment so add about $800.00 to the $4400 so compare the $3000 to a new price of $5200.....57%

[rsser]

Outboard turning stand retails for about $550. Curved rests would cost around $150 - $200 the lot.

[jefferson]

Just having ordered a new VL175, I thought I'd add in MTBW.

I bought my VL300 in 2006. I only really started to use it after came up in March or April this year. I may have spent say 100 hours turning on it.

I paid $4500 for it, new price is now over $7000. (I accept the new machine have some better features).

So if I sold it right now, it would be a reasonable buy at say 60%. But that % of what I paid or replacement?

More so, at least in my mind, it is good value in that it hasn't done any hard grunt work. Except when arrives.

But second hand is exactly that. You don't know that my VL300 is in great condition. may have been production turning on it hard for 3 solid years.

And I do believe things wear, as Big Shed has intimated. And no 1 or 2 year guarantee.

Now if I was to say buy Calm's 750 Stubby, that would be different. I've seen the care he takes with it, wiping the beds down, treating it better than he does himself.

I don't like lotteries.

If my new VL175 comes and the head and tailstocks don't align, I think I can quite rightly complain long and hard. But how do you do that over the net, sight unseen?

And some of us are not as handy as others. When I have to change the bearings on my lathe, I will be asking for help..... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I saw an old VL200 today, still rock solid. I don't understand how the belts / pulleys works (the handle arrangement for variable speed).

But I did notice the chisels. None sharp. Lots of scrapers and stacks of dust. Which equals hard use in my mind.

There are bargains out there, no question. Turners are an aging community. Most take the habit up late in life. And things get sold cheaply. Very cheaply.

But I'd want to see anything first.

[rsser]

IME good lathes don't come up all that often and not cheaply.

Turners graduate over time to the good stuff and then settle to using it until their bods fail or they die. The lathe is then most likely to be sold through their club and never make it onto the open market.

Fred warned about the motor and the armature wearing out. I don't understand the diff between these not being a tech person. Good wiring shouldn't burn out but when it does how much does rewiring cost? Spindles potentially can get bent but how many do? And in the case of this VL175, at $4.4 k new, what would Victor charge for a replacement unit and what percentage of that new price would it be?

[Ozkaban]

It's turned up again (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/WOOD-LATHE-VICMARC-VL175SH-WOOD-TURNING-LATHE_W0QQitemZ230408596497QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_BnI_Woodworking_Metalworking?hash=item35a56c2c11), this time buy it now for $2750 or make an offer.

I'm trying to work out what I could sell to buy this thing - I don't care if it's a 12 hour drive away. Ultimately I don't think LOML's patience would run that far though!

I genuinely don't understand why it hasn't been sold yet. From the looks of things it's a good solid lathe going for what appears to be a good price?!?

Cheers,
Dave

[hughie]

Ebay as a market is a bit tight at the moment and one has just gone for much less than $2000 so its set the standard.

[Ozkaban]

Ebay as a market is a bit tight at the moment and one has just gone for much less than $2000 so its set the standard.

Fair call. Was that the VL200 that might have been an accidental buy-it-now?

In any case, I have noticed that this one is an older model, .75kw vs current 1.1kw, and I don't know what other differences there would be. Though I do reckon that 1hp on a vicmarc may be slightly different to the 1hp on my MC-1100 :rolleyes:

Cheers,
Dave