New workshop!

[mcsblues]

Built a garage (steel ... NEVER again) - lived in it far too long while I built the house. That is nearly finished (are houses ever finished?) so I figure it is time for the good stuff ... a 'proper' workshop/shed call it what you like (if I ever sell this place it will be a "studio":wink:).

So, last week got a digger in to clear the site and do a bit of car park extension, then Friday bright and early Clinton the Mega Anchor guy came and did a great job (finished by lunchtime), the weekend was pretty wet about every 30 minutes but got her up to floor level by Monday lunch (pics attached if I can work it!).

The floor is going to be Tas oak T&G, which is going to be out in the open for a week or two until I get it framed and roofed ... which gives rise to the question (yes of course there is one!). What would you experts recommend as a sealer to stop the floor soaking up water in the mean time? Would something like Danish Oil or maybe BLO (boiled linseed oil) do the trick? I will probably slap some polish on later but I need something to stop the boards cupping (and then shrinking) before I do (will try to get the whole floor laid in a day with whatever rolled on before the dew gets it.

TIA

Oh yes the pics;

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4458-friday-am-clinton.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4459-saturday-am-bearers.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4460-sunday-bloody-rain.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4461-monday-lunchtime.jpg

Cheers,

Malcolm

PS Sorry - I figure there is a thumbnail rule here? I can get thumbnails ... that don't lead to my album, or these which at least are small ...ish ( I didn't resize the originals) ... what can I say ... it's late!

[Scribbly Gum]

Why are you going to lay the floor before framing and roofing?
Every structure that I have ever built or helped build has had the frame erected directly on the joists and the roof on that.
The floor has been done after the frame was sarked.
No problem with moisture on the T&G that way.
Cheers
SG

[snapman007]

:whs:

[mcsblues]

Why are you going to lay the floor before framing and roofing?
Every structure that I have ever built or helped build has had the frame erected directly on the joists and the roof on that.
The floor has been done after the frame was sarked.
No problem with moisture on the T&G that way.
Cheers
SG

Thanks for your answer.

I have considered it, but I'd rather have a safe stable platform to work from. I guess I am used to the yellow tongue floor (the house has 12 mm overlay tas oak over yellow tongue) - which seems too much work and unnecessarily expensive for a shed.

I'm not all that concerned about how the floor will look ... well ok I would like it to look pretty good as well as feel better than the slab in the garage, and of course I am not using select grade timber, I just want to seal it so there are no structural issues, then if I feel like it (quite probably not until I sell), I can sand and polish it up later.

[mic-d]

Floor down first is a tried and true method too. Queenslanders were built that way. Gave them something to walk on. I wouln't use BLO on the TG it can encourage mould while it's open to the elements. maybe just a clear decking oil to hold it or 50:50 diluted FW Floor Seal/turps.

Cheers
Michael

[jasons673]

Hi Malcom, great location you have there, what spacing did you use on your bearers and joist? and the size of your timbers. did you make up the piers your self? with the floor finish, would polyurethane finish , stand up to the weather?

[conwood]

Hey Malcolm,
You going to seal/coat the underside of the boards as well? Would be a good idea methinks.

Now might also be a good time to build the timber racks underneath, and maybe add an elevator to get the timber up..or am I being silly now. :doh:
And we won't mention underfloor just extraction..I better stop now.

Bloody ripper shed BTW..sickening when people have a bigger shed than me. :D

Keep the piccies coming
cheers
conwood

[mcsblues]

Michael thanks, I did look through the FW and was thinking maybe China Wood Oil? - quick drying and deep penetration would seem to be a plus, but I guess any of the oil/poly combinations should be ok and I should worry about something else!:p

Jason the shed is 12 x 6 Bearers are120x68 Hybrid 2 metres apart supported every 2.4. Joists 126x43 Stablelam pine at 450 centres. The piers are all part of the Mega Anchor system - which I suggested to the architect for the house and he says oh no you are a bit high for mega anchors! Anyway I was after some timber sizes for the shed and he says why don't you use mega anchors!! Would have saved me a packet and a heap of time too the bastard!:wink:

Mega Anchor Australia (http://www.mega-anchor.com.au/)

Con, no, no plans for the underside - that will all be boxed in (3mm ply between the joists to hold the insulation) so shouldn't be a problem.

Timber racks, yes but ... I am the only elevator around here!:~

I did give some thought to building in the dust extraction, but I figured as I don't know exactly what equipment I will be able to afford after all this, or where each machine will be best place ... I am pretty much bound to get that wrong! - so for the time being I will have one on wheels to connect to whatever I am using ... cheap, and simple ... like me!:)

[mcsblues]

The floor and framing started ...

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4618-floor.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4619-frame-1.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4620-frame-1a.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4621-frame-2.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4622-frame-3.jpg

[artme]

Looking good!:2tsup:

[Waldo]

Great outlook for a shed. :2tsup:

[Groggy]

Ok, I'm jealous as h*ll :(

:D

[Waldo]

But it doesn't have the mother of all benches yet. :?

[mcsblues]

But it doesn't have the mother of all benches yet. :?

Thanks guys. Waldo would a 12 metre long bench down one side suffice or does it have to extend out onto the deck? ... yes of course its going to have a deck!:wink::p

[Waldo]

Extend it on to the deck, then you can lean and ponder while you look at the view. :2tsup:

[opelblues]

Years ago i worked for a pole house/home builder, i used to do all his steel fab, and then when that was done i worked as the luger. Now the floors in most of his houses were first grade T&G - blue gum - box gum - iron bark - and some a import that for the life of me i can’t remember the name but it came from PNG.

The area that he/we worked was in Cairns, and as you can believe it rained a lot. The first time i did work for him i saw bales of hay being delved to the house site.
Now the process. As the floor was laid the underside was painted with sealer undercoat, the top of the floor was sprayed with a bio-gradable anti-fungal, at least 2" of hay laid down and at least 30cm from all edges, then over the top of this was black viscren. And second hand carpet over the top, the wall frames are laid straight over the top of the plastic
Now you might think this is over the top, but when you are working with such high grade flooring the all the care is need. There were no tools to be laid on to the floor. All cutting was done under the shelter out the front of the site. Site cleanup was every afternoon before the rain came. When each stage was finished the hay was put in to the gardens that were yet to be built
This gent was a German master builder and his work was a site to see
As for your little project, it’s bigger than my flat. Wish I had that room, when can I move

[mcsblues]

Years ago i worked for a pole house/home builder, i used to do all his steel fab, and then when that was done i worked as the luger. Now the floors in most of his houses were first grade T&G - blue gum - box gum - iron bark - and some a import that for the life of me i can’t remember the name but it came from PNG.

The area that he/we worked was in Cairns, and as you can believe it rained a lot. The first time i did work for him i saw bales of hay being delved to the house site.
Now the process. As the floor was laid the underside was painted with sealer undercoat, the top of the floor was sprayed with a bio-gradable anti-fungal, at least 2" of hay laid down and at least 30cm from all edges, then over the top of this was black viscren. And second hand carpet over the top, the wall frames are laid straight over the top of the plastic
Now you might think this is over the top, but when you are working with such high grade flooring the all the care is need. There were no tools to be laid on to the floor. All cutting was done under the shelter out the front of the site. Site cleanup was every afternoon before the rain came. When each stage was finished the hay was put in to the gardens that were yet to be built
This gent was a German master builder and his work was a site to see
As for your little project, it’s bigger than my flat. Wish I had that room, when can I move

Sounds mighty complicated opel (are you sure we aren't related?:wink:). I think if I was putting down a quality floor, I would lay it on top of yellow tongue, or even a concrete slab floor - no creaking then!! I have heard of builders laying down plastic (without the straw) but I figure you are bound to get at least pin holes in the plastic - in which case any water that does get under the plastic ... stays there!:o ... not to mention condensation ...

Some progress;

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4640-frame-4.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4639-frame-5.jpg

The purlins (green 4x2s) are coming first thing Tuesday, ... if all goes really well (unlikely!) I'd like to get the roof on by the end of the week.

I'm coming round to the underfloor dust collection idea. Wouldn't be that hard to change around if ... ok, when I get it wrong, and as long as I use mostly rigid pipe I reckon some longish runs sloping down to the DE shouldn't be a problem.

[BozInOz]

Looking forward to watching the progress.

[ivanavitch]

Malcolm
It seems my post was dropped in the "Great Meltdown", and your reply with pix of the house and the view as well.
Can you repost please.

john

[mcsblues]

Hey John,

Hope it wasn't my pics that caused the MOAMD!:p

In brief I said I didn't have any decent pics of the finished article (but could bore you senseless with construction pics) and I posted these two -

- 1 an attempt by me at an arty night shot (failed!)

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4651-night-shot.jpg


2 - the view, which sadly I can't take credit for;

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4652-view.jpg

but this morning you prompted me to try (and again fail - it is hard with all these trees!!) but here is what I got, which might give you some idea (btw the shed is sort of similar architecturally - supposed to fit in);

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4653-img-0582-1.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4654-img-0584.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4655-img-0589-1.jpg

[ivanavitch]

Now I'm sorry I asked. I think I have "View jealousy".

Great job!!!

[mcsblues]

Thanks John,

The view (and the block generally) is actually a sort of a problem for me. You see I'd like to build another house. Its something I like doing and old timers (well older than me!) reckon you need to build at least 3 (some say 5!!) before you get it right.

I'm fairly happy with the house, but there are always things you'd do differently and plenty more new things I'd like to try ... but before I can even start I need to find another block at least as good ... at a reasonable price ... and that is getting harder all the time.

[woodturner777]

Shed is coming along well Malcolm, I should be able to get down for a coffeee in the next few weeks, flat out with orders at the moment.
P.s, if you are not happy with the House I will take it off your hands.:U
Cheers,Bob

[mcsblues]

Been snowed under ... with. well life I guess!:-:?, but no real excuses but at least some progress to report:);

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4925-roofed-begin-wrap.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4926-skylights.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4927-roof.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4928-check-barn-door-fit.jpg

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4929-floor-sanding-doors-hinged.jpg


http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/4930-last-look-ballroom.jpg

Hopefully the sparky will be back to finish the basic wiring tomorrow so I can get into lining and cladding. Most of the machinery has been ordered including the dust extractor to mount under the floor so that system (including a 44 gallon Thein cyclone) is close to the next thing to tackle.

Oh and Bob ... if you want the house you'll need that half a mil cash we were talking about ... and change!:U

[Christos]

It looks so much better when it is enclosed. :2tsup:

[Waldo]

What sort of access will you have to get machinery etc. in?

[mcsblues]

What sort of access will you have to get machinery etc. in?
I'm building a small area of decking (outside the barn doors on the 2nd last pic). That way a truck with a Hiab can swing things in ... although I was thinking this afternoon I will probably build up a bit of the gravel on the low side so a flat tray (or my trailer) is more level as it is backed in. That way, things could be slid in on boards and more easily offloaded generally.

[Waldo]

:2tsup:

Keep the updates coming (not that you wouldn't - I'd be proud as punch to be building a shed like yours)

[Elill]

Beautiful.....I'm so jealous.

But say you make something on the small side, like a 6m long dining table, how are you going to carry it out?

Rather, whats the plan for entry point/paths etc?

[mcsblues]

Thanks Elill,

If I ever make a 6 metre long dining table:oo: :o ... as long as it is no more than 3.2 wide it can go out through the barn doors and something that big will probably need a crane waiting for it anyway!!:U (not to mention someone wanting to build their house around it!:) )

There is now another 1200mm of decking in front of the doors (well the "decking" is temporary yellow tongue - Bob and I have a semi load of jarrah heading this way - some of that is going to go 'missing' ... here!;))

[Sir Stinkalot]

Looking at the floor that is not a shed ..... its a work of art. Love it!

[mcsblues]

Looking at the floor that is not a shed ..... its a work of art. Love it!
Thanks.

The sanding guy was horrified that I have already scratched it (I was using it as a cutting floor for the Permastop) But I may have to damage it again - otherwise it may be hard to really use it for what it is for. I actually caught the sparky wiping his feet today :laughing1: ... he never did that in the house!!

BTW love your signature line ... but you do realise that it is the Flying Spaghetti Monster ... holding us all down with his noodley appendages?? Gravity is just a theory after all ... ;)

[Christos]

I actually caught the sparky wiping his feet today :laughing1: ... he never did that in the house!!

I think you are missing something and if you will permit me I will enlighten you.

It is called respect for the Shed.

:U

[Scribbly Gum]

Now that is a lovely floor in a lovely shed.
If you haven't already organised for it to be done, then I would like to suggest that you install over your gutters a leaf guard system.
This will keep your gutters clean and will reduce the fire risk in summer.
Also you will be relieved of the absolutely rotten job of gutter cleaning.
Your roof will likely need plenty of attention as well, if only to keep your skylights clear.
We live in similar surroundings as you and the pitch on our roof is a little higher than yours. It is a constant chore to keep the roof clear. The installed gutter protection has been money very well spent for us.
I am really looking forward to seeing your shed finished. Great job by the way and thanks for sharing.
SG:2tsup:

[mcsblues]

I think you are missing something and if you will permit me I will enlighten you.

It is called respect for the Shed.

:U
:biggrin2: You may have something there Christos. Someone should teach him 'respect for the house' ... not to mention 'how to use a phone' (to tell you, when he said tomorrow ... he meant tomorrow week!:roll:

What is it about sparkys? (probably should be careful. there are doubtless a few here :p) The same guy had to come back to fix a few issues with the downlights in the house (he had forgotten to install the guards) - no problem he says, so up he goes, on the new kitchen benchtop ... with his boots on!!:o I go away for a while ... I come back, there was a bowl of fruit in the kitchen ... it ... and the fruit are now covered in plaster dust!!:rolleyes:

Thanks SG, I will consider leaf guards, but at the moment there are no gutters (waiting for the external cladding) ... I am trying to get the internal cladding finished so the sparky can come back and power her up as I'm expecting some new toys on Tuesday!:)

[Harrison]

looking good there, its more like a ballroom, great set up as well!!!:D green smile for you!

cheers Harrison:D

[Sawdust Maker]

I can only say that I have an extreme case of "shed envy" :doh:

It's a crippling condition and I think I need a bex and a lie down :q

[mcsblues]

Getting there;

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/5120-cladding.jpg

Cladding done.

http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/33709-mcsblues/albums/workshop/5121-yellow-box-board-walk-gutter.jpg


Yellow box board walk to side access door. Gutter on.


Just a whole lot of painting (not exactly my favourite job) and finish lining the inside and she's just about ready to rumble!

[BozInOz]

Looks like it's coming along well.
I have little to no construction experience, however on your foundations the supports seem very thin to support the structure. Should I be concerned?

[Sawdust Maker]

Looks like it's coming along well.
I have little to no construction experience, however on your foundations the supports seem very thin to support the structure. Should I be concerned?

Only if you're visiting :wink:

looking good
any toys inside yet?

[mcsblues]

Should I be concerned?
Only if you're visiting :wink::U
Well I'm not and the engineer isn't so there is no reason for you to be!:wink: It is as solid as a rock, in fact probably more solid than the house (which has bigger box section supports). I think I may have said before, the Mega Anchor system is fantastic - I'd use it again in a flash (and no I'm not on the payroll!:p)


looking good
any toys inside yet?3 of them. One more coming across the Straight tomorrow ... ish and the last (for now at least) is on the slow boat from China ... or maybe Taiwan.

[woodturner777]

Well after going in the shed again today all I can say is it is looking better and better each time, better than a lot of houses I have been in and that yellow box walk way is the bees knees excellent for decking and will last for ever.
Got any Jarrah pen blanks Malcolm.:U:2tsup:
Cheers, Bob

[wheelinround]

I'm with Boz on this one engineer concerned or not. I'd not be moving machines along the flimsy pathway, or is the end of the building where machines will be gaining access:?
That begs the question how?

As for the floorboards having seen even hardwood pallets and trucks and trailers with wood flooring, new at that, break under strain of load pressure and they have closer bearers than that flooring.:roll:

In all its a magnificent shed will keep coming back to see the progress.

[woodturner777]

My God, You guys worry about nothing the foundations and the pathway are not flimsy and the wood work machines are already in place no wonder some people never get anything done. Tasmanian wood is hardwood not crapwood.:2tsup:
Cheers, Bob


I'm with Boz on this one engineer concerned or not. I'd not be moving machines along the flimsy pathway, or is the end of the building where machines will be gaining access:?
That begs the question how?

As for the floorboards having seen even hardwood pallets and trucks and trailers with wood flooring, new at that, break under strain of load pressure and they have closer bearers than that flooring.:roll:

In all its a magnificent shed will keep coming back to see the progress.

[wheelinround]

My God, You guys worry about nothing the foundations and the pathway are not flimsy and the wood work machines are already in place no wonder some people never get anything done. Tasmanian wood is hardwood not crapwood.:2tsup:
Cheers, Bob

So where are the pics of machines in place :U the how they got there answer :p

[mcsblues]

I'm with Boz on this one engineer concerned or not. I'd not be moving machines along the flimsy pathway,...

Steady, I engineered the "flimsy pathway"!!:laughing1:
or is the end of the building where machines will be gaining accesshttp://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/standard/confused.gif
That begs the question how?There is now a ramp leading up to what will be the new decked area (which is going to be made out of large pen blanks Bob!) which even though it isn't finished, allowed a couple of oldish codgers to offload machine/toy #4 this afternoon!:wink:

As for the floorboards having seen even hardwood pallets and trucks and trailers with wood flooring, new at that, break under strain of load pressure and they have closer bearers than that flooring.http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/rolleye.gifIt isn't just the bearer spacing that is critical. The laminated joists are more than capable of that span .... if you don't believe me, come round for a beer ... we can both jump up and down together!:)


In all its a magnificent shed will keep coming back to see the progress. Thanks. Magnificent and flimsy!:p

(Btw I think Boz was more concerned about the steel piers)

[wheelinround]

Steady, I engineered the "flimsy pathway"!!:laughing1: There is now a ramp leading up to what will be the new decked area (which is going to be made out of large pen blanks Bob!) which even though it isn't finished, allowed a couple of oldish codgers to offload machine/toy #4 this afternoon!:wink:
It isn't just the bearer spacing that is critical. The laminated joists are more than capable of that span .... if you don't believe me, come round for a beer ... we can both jump up and down together!:)

Thanks. Magnificent and flimsy!:p

(Btw I think Boz was more concerned about the steel piers)

:rolleyes: Trucks and pallets are engineered too and for bigger tare weights :;

Still no pics to prove it:no::; but then again 4 in Tassie is like 7pm mainland.

Trip to Tassie ASAP, Beer I wish but health make one a tea totaler now :roll:

Ok I'll be in the jumping :D

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_aoknvTezfhA/Sskke4VdvvI/AAAAAAAAAZQ/-tp6c2eymxk/s200/IMG_4071RAYS+ROSEWOOD+LOG+1.jpg

[woodturner777]

Time to post some photos of them Toys Malcolm.:2tsup:
Jarrah Pen blanks available by the truck load.:U




Steady, I engineered the "flimsy pathway"!!:laughing1: There is now a ramp leading up to what will be the new decked area (which is going to be made out of large pen blanks Bob!) which even though it isn't finished, allowed a couple of oldish codgers to offload machine/toy #4 this afternoon!:wink:
It isn't just the bearer spacing that is critical. The laminated joists are more than capable of that span .... if you don't believe me, come round for a beer ... we can both jump up and down together!:)

Thanks. Magnificent and flimsy!:p

(Btw I think Boz was more concerned about the steel piers)

[mcsblues]

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pallets are engineered? The ones I've seen are all knocked together with the cheapest, knot ridden crap available! I guess if you don't trust engineers you won't be jumping on an engineered plane any time soon!http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif:p


still no pics to prove ithttp://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/no.gifhttp://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/mf_wink.gif but then again 4 in tassie is like 7pm mainland.
he says at 9.42??http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/standard/confused.gif Same time here until you guys start obsessing about daylight saving fading your curtains!http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/happy/biggrin.gif:U


ok i'll be in the jumping http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/standard/biggrin.gif
aren't you glad I made a ramp?http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif i must admit I'm intrigued as to the 'flimsy' bit - it has three 145x45 bearers at 450 centres with 20mm yellow box decking which must be about ten times the strength of the normal treated pine crap ... over engineered I'd say! As for the shed, even the biggest machine wouldn't weigh much more than 2 of me ...(even so the chain hoist has got a workout during assembly!) - if i invited i similarly sized mate around I'd be a bit upset if the house, the shed, the garage or anything else I've built couldn't stand the strain!!http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/happy/laughing1.gif

[mcsblues]

Time to post some photos of them Toys Malcolm.:2tsup:

I'm a little bit hesitant to post pics of all my toys online ... for much the same reason as posting photos of the Rembrandt collection in the house you were admiring yesterday ...

But I probably will when I get things tidied up a bit - for some toy positioning input ... after all, if the whole thing is about to blow over in a gentle breeze (not that we get those here;)) I better not white ant the floor with too many holes for the dusty blast gates!:)

[wheelinround]

Well back to agreeing with Boz I still do and yes about the piers.

The ramp if its 45mm wide sorry :no: not wide enough for a standard wheelchair

Pallets are engineered considering what they carry and go through. Might look like crap wood but look through this forum and you'll find the results of the Pallet challenge. So many woodies snatch them up and make excellent high quality pieces for big $$$.

Isn't the wood your using used in Tassie homes for warming during winter http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/happy/biggrin.gif

Magnificent and flimsy yep seen many an art work or structure many have said that about.http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/mf_wink.gif

[Christos]

I like what has been completed so far. I would perfer the entry way to be a little wider, but then again it is just me. :U

So why are you afraid of painting?

[mcsblues]

Well back to agreeing with Boz I still do and yes about the piers. Steel pipe is pretty bloody strong in compression. To stop non compressive forces being applied there is about 5 times as much bracing as the engineer specified!:)


The ramp if its 45mm wide sorry http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/no.gif not wide enough for a standard wheelchair Umm, no that would be a tightrope!:oo: The bearers are 45mm. Like I said, there are three of them at 450mm centres. The decking spanning them is 975mm. Happy now?:wink:


Pallets are engineered considering what they carry and go through. Might look like crap wood but look through this forum and you'll find the results of the Pallet challenge. So many woodies snatch them up and make excellent high quality pieces for big $$$.Yes I have made compost bins from them!:p


Isn't the wood your using used in Tassie homes for warming during winter http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/happy/biggrin.gifSome eucalypt is, but you'd have to be seriously rich to burn yellow box. It is at least twice as dense as 'standard' Tassie oak, heavier than jarrah ... what do you use? ... RSJs?:U


Magnificent and flimsy yep seen many an art work or structure many have said that about.http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/http://cdn.woodworkforums.com/images/smilies/mf_wink.gifI'm proud to be included!:)

[BozInOz]

Without a serious engineering background I can't give serious comment on the system. But I had a look at the mega anchor site and thought the system was quite impressive. It does look filmsy but seems clever.

I think I would some how cover in enclose under the shed... but that's just me. You could have some nice timber stored underneath.

[mcsblues]

I like what has been completed so far. I would perfer the entry way to be a little wider, but then again it is just me. :U3.2 metres? Wider than a roller door ... faster than ... actually its not that fast ... and I haven't taught it to jump ... anything .... yet!


So why are you afraid of painting?I didn't say afraid did I?? Must keep a lid on what I say out loud! :-

I take it you are volunteering? Thanks! Might even be a beer in it!:U

[wheelinround]

:doh: Sorry miss-read that I was on about the width of the ramp. 690cm is track width of my standard chair.

I do understand about photo's of workshops etc and agree.

[woodturner777]

Easy fixed Malcolm, Just lay a mine field around the workshop.
Bob.:U


I'm a little bit hesitant to post pics of all my toys online ... for much the same reason as posting photos of the Rembrandt collection in the house you were admiring yesterday ...

But I probably will when I get things tidied up a bit - for some toy positioning input ... after all, if the whole thing is about to blow over in a gentle breeze (not that we get those here;)) I better not white ant the floor with too many holes for the dusty blast gates!:)

[Christos]

I didn't say afraid did I?? Must keep a lid on what I say out loud! :-

I take it you are volunteering? Thanks! Might even be a beer in it!:U

I think it works this way. Send the beer up to Sydney and I will send a brush to Tassie. Send another beer and I will send a shoe, when my clothes are all in Tassie it will be time to send myself. :rotfl:

[mcsblues]

I think it works this way. Send the beer up to Sydney and I will send a brush to Tassie. Send another beer and I will send a shoe, when my clothes are all in Tassie it will be time to send myself. :rotfl:

Sounds reasonable ... oh wait, I think even Richard Branson might object to you flying down in the nude!:oo::p

Pity. I guess it is back to plan A:wink: