hughesx5 22nd June 2010, 06:00 PM Dear woodworkers,
We have moved into our first house, of to a late start. The MOTH would love to line the open, back verandah ceiling with timber, Our thoughts went straight for Cypres Pine, a delightful timber and terminte friendly. Floor boards seem a bit thick, but I can't find another product that comes close to the our original idea but on a lighter scale.
Can anyone offer ideas or suggestions
Thanks
ivanavitch 22nd June 2010, 08:59 PM Have you looked at VJ. I think it's something like 130 * 12 mm. shaped as 2 boards.
les88 23rd June 2010, 08:09 AM I would use pine lining boards.
have you considered the weight of floor boards will the existing structure handle it.
les
whitewood 23rd June 2010, 09:09 AM Dear woodworkers,
We have moved into our first house, of to a late start. The MOTH would love to line the open, back verandah ceiling with timber, Our thoughts went straight for Cypres Pine, a delightful timber and terminte friendly. Floor boards seem a bit thick, but I can't find another product that comes close to the our original idea but on a lighter scale.
Can anyone offer ideas or suggestions
Thanks
Depending on your budget Paulownia is an excellent option. Light weight, light in colour, doesn't yellow with age once sealed, easy to work with and not a favourite food for termites.
Whitewood
RossM 23rd June 2010, 10:22 AM Don't use flooring - a waste of money & good timber!
I re-built a house in the Blue Mountains in the 90's - veradahs on 3 sides. I did all the timber verandah lining with tongue & groove v-grooved radiata pine liners & finished with Cabots ClearCoat. It held up really well.
You can get cypress lining boards - usually 12mm - 19mm depending on the mill. I have seen these in shiplap boards as well as v-grooveHave not seen regency style in cypress.
North Eden Timber does a large range of species.
Radiata will be much cheaper - you need to decide on your budget!
hughesx5 23rd June 2010, 11:11 AM Thanks RossM,
North Eden Timber looks like a good start, appreciate your time
hughesx5 23rd June 2010, 11:12 AM Thanks Whitewood
hughesx5 23rd June 2010, 11:44 AM appreciate everyones assistance, I'll let you know how we go.
Karyn
robgran 23rd June 2010, 12:49 PM Before deciding on thickness of boards, you should check the distance between rafters. A thread started by "flynnsart" on 25sept 2007 produced a discussion on this subject. A post by"ausdesign" commented that AS1684 specifies a span of 450mm for T&G boards on a 'non-trafficable roof' with 12mm softwood. It might be worth reading the standard to check whether this applies to your job.
I'm in the process of lining my cathedral ceiling with radiata pine T&G boards, and I chose 19mm because the rafters are spaced 900mm apart, and the boards will be supporting 185mm thickness of polyester insulation. The boards cost me $2.80 per metre with a volume discount, at a Melbourne builders supplier.
It seems to be the most efficient to apply a finish to the boards before fixing them in place. Both sides should be finished to avoid uneven moisture absorption, which can cause cupping. To get the most consistent colour over the whole area, a tint can be mixed with clear polyurethane rather than applying a stain first. To keep close to the raw colour of the pine, I used one coat of Intergrain UltraClear interior water-based poly tinted in-store to 'mushroom' colour. Water-based is a lot more costly than oil-based, but there is very little odour.:)
You might also think about whether you are likely to need to run any wiring ( for lights /security sensors), phone lines etc before lining the verandah.
Rob
Team McKay 23rd June 2010, 01:26 PM I'm quite interested in this.. I just ripped the old hardi-flex off of our front verandah/porch, I was going to leave it open (old timber + corrugated iron) rather than close it back in.
A mate told me I should line it with timber, but at the time I thought "why".
Obviously it's not as uncommon as I thought!
RossM 23rd June 2010, 01:59 PM Hi Team McKay
I have stripped the fibro eve lining from my roof where it forms a deep overhang on the front deck & am replacing it with Hardie Primeline Chamfer Weatherboards. I've run nogs between rafters as I want the boards to run the same direction as the rafters.
I've used these for verandah linings at the front door and out the back, and it works really well. Pine liners are not so suitable for my current house & it will all be painted anyway. The fibro is weather & vermin proof.
Just another option to consider.
Team McKay 23rd June 2010, 02:17 PM I'll have a look at them for sure! I'm thinking similar, if I put up timber, it'd be painted. I like raw timber in certain parts (like the jarrah I'm using out the front currently) but I'm not big on raw timber for ceiling / walls.
Cheers.
acmegridley 23rd June 2010, 06:13 PM Replaced the ceiling in my brothers house with vjointed radiata be careful, get top grade stuff ,we sent one load back when we were doing it, was full of knot holes.looked s...house, bloke at timber yard performed until I pointed out price we paid and Aussie timber standard ,we paid for clears and expected them ,he soon shut up when we pointed this out,mumbling "There are grades and there are grades of this stuff"
Caveat emptor:(
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