spencer411 24th May 2011, 01:23 AM Hey guys hope all is well. I am now almost bald due to this base I'm trying to figure out. Basically I'm trying to construct a japanese style wine cabinet, I know what I want as far as design and I have almost set out the job completely.... BESIDES THE BASE!:(( I appologise about the quality of the picture but it was taken on my phone. I am going to laminate the legs and was thinking doweling the legs to the cross beam? I've highlighted what I am having trouble with. It's some what of a scissor stand, the thing is I need it to be quite rigid, considering the contents of the cabinet will be a little pricey, let alone the cabinet itself..
I look forward to hearing everyones ideas.
Thanks a million.
Spence..
BrettC 24th May 2011, 10:08 PM Hi Spence,
Seeing as there are no takers yet I'll have a go. The strength of the connection to the cross beam is probably secondary to the strength of the legs themselves. Have you considered usinga band saw to cut solid wood for the legs - orienting the grain so you use the straight grain to its maximum strength?
For the connetion dowels (a couple) would be okay, or biscuit/s. Also a floating tenon from hardwood might also work. If you are that concerned with the base strength then definately consider solid hardwood cut to the curve with a bansaw.
Hope this helps.
RufflyRustic 25th May 2011, 01:30 PM that is certainly a big challenge. My first thought was that I didn't like the scissor base, it reminds me of an ironing board that is about to collapse :C
My personal preference would be for a more standard 4 legs with styles, and work hard on the lines so that you get strength plus the Japanese look you are after.
my 2 cents, may not be what you are after though.
spencer411 25th May 2011, 10:30 PM yer i was thinking that too ruffly and i've sketched and sketched but can quite get something as nice as this. aswell as looking japanese it reminds me of the old chests you could get with a stand like this. I'd still like to try this stand thought, i think it looks good.... See how we go hey..
I was thinking about how to brace the stand lastnight and figured i should put a cross brace or 2 cross braces in between the beams, perhaps dovetail them in.. this might take a while to do this cabinet :?
RufflyRustic 26th May 2011, 09:59 AM If you get a chance, have a search through Google Images for Japanese Furniture and see if you can get some more ideas for the legs from there.
I'm looking forward to seeing your progress on this :)
pal 26th May 2011, 06:07 PM Hi Spence, How about if you flared the top of the scissor legs out to the same width as the cross pieces that they rest on and use a mortise and tenon on that. taper the legs down to about half the width at the bottom (experiment with this with drawings and cutouts on cardboard to get a nice balanced look to the legs). Use a 19mm dowel where they cross and a sliding dove tail for the bottom braces. As brettc said cut the shape on the band saw and orient the grain to maximize the straight grain strength.
Just my thoughts on it.
Regards
Harold
thompy 28th May 2011, 02:22 AM when i saw your sketch two idea's occurred to me, first one is using a full width laminated sheet both sides with like a lap joint in the middle retaining the curve for style, or second idea again keeping the curve for the style and carrying the individual leg idea full width, i'll try and find a similar pic to explain.
idea two scissor style to your design (http://dev.ewins.com/press/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/tt-1130.jpg)
idea one full width lami to your leg design (http://www.agethahomedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/xhome-design-Simply-Outdoor-Tilde-Wooden-Lounge-Deck-Chair-by-Pooz-Design-469x290.jpg.pagespeed.ic.CIfoX0fKWm.jpg)
kind of thing, hope you get what i mean.
i think it would provide more stability than 4 solitary thin legs and keep within the "oriental" shape of design of your overview with a kind of modern twist (pun was not intended but it works).
Neal.
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