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Woodwould
9th August 2011, 10:46 AM
I am required to take various tablets both morning and evening, and keeping them ordered and convenient has necessitated the use of a box which resides on a table by my principal chair. The unattractive shiny tin box always was just a temporary container for my medications, but the promise of replacing it with something a little less garish has dragged on to the point of ridicule.

One of my many failings is that I don't relish trifling jobs; I prefer sinking my teeth into meaty, man-sized pieces of furniture. And so, in an utterly futile attempt to evade the inevitable, and with spousal pressure ever building, I explored all manner of suitable antique containers from an initially attractive £2,450 ($3,680) miniature Sheraton mahogany chest of drawers, circa 1780, standing 9-3/4" high; to a more modestly priced George I walnut veneered tea caddy, circa 1720. The former I deemed a little high priced for my purposes and the latter I thought mighty attractive.


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The high…





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… and the mighty. (Reindeer Antiques)


The inornate tea caddy is quite glorious in its simplicity; however, I am drawn to those caddies whose base mouldings have integral bracket feet – in fact, I wonder if this caddy once had feet.

When a recent visitor opined the view it was a shame I should have as inelegant a tin box in such a conspicuous position – particularly in light of the other items I had made around the house – I could bear it no longer. I had to make a caddy of some description.

With its simplified bracket feet, I find the style and proportions of the George II tea caddy, below, quite sublime, though I won't be replicating the clinquant graffiti on my caddy – fabulous as it is.


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George II Chinoiserie tea caddy, c. 1750.


It mattered little what wood was used for caddy carcases as their interiors were inevitably lined and so the (normally oak or pine) carcases weren't visible. Tea caddy interiors were lined with lead foil to preserve the freshness of the tea, while other varieties of caddies and small boxes – and often the lids of tea caddies – were lined with silk or decorative paper. For lining my caddy, I will make some traditional marbled paper using earthy colours commensurate with the period.
Small veneered box carcases were seldom dovetailed; dovetailing is unnecessarily time consuming on this scale. Glued and nailed carcases were the norm – the very best might have been rebated rather than butt-jointed.

I glued and nailed a little closed pine box together as the basis of my veneered medicine caddy. I was circumspect with the spacing of the cut nails in the proximity of the top so I wouldn't ruin my saw when it came time to separate the lid from the base.


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Simple glued and nailed construction.



Earlier in the year I acquired a one-hundred-and-fifty-year-old yew tree, some of which I sawed into 5/64" (2mm) thick veneers. I veneered the front, back and ends of the carcase with this yew. Yew moulding slips were mitred and glued onto what will be the lid before it too was veneered. The veneer was cleaned up and the simple moulding formed around the perimeter of the lid.

The separation line was carefully located (to avoid the cut nails within) and the box was sawn in two.


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The parted box.


An ovolo moulding was stuck along a thin, narrow piece of yew from which the feet were cut. I mitred the mouldings and glued them onto the bottom edges of the box.



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The yew caddy in-the-white.



As the interior of the caddy will be lined, it's appropriate to recess the handle's pommel nuts into the lid to maintain a flat surface for the marbled paper to adhere to. I drilled and counterbored the pommel holes on the underside of the lid and also cut the hinge mortices into the lid and box

Waldo
9th August 2011, 11:28 AM
A little one 'ey? I'd be all fingers trying to make something small I think.

Looking forward to the progress. :2tsup:

ClintO
9th August 2011, 11:34 AM
It looks really good
What are the dimensions?
I am curious to see how you manage the cut surface when you separate the lid

Woodwould
9th August 2011, 11:46 AM
The basic box is 9" x 5-1/2" x 5-1/2" and the feet add a further 1/2" to the height.

I just used a block plane to trim the cut edges.

jmk89
9th August 2011, 11:50 AM
One question WW - where do you get your cut nails?

Woodwould
9th August 2011, 12:00 PM
I know I bought some 'furniture brads' from the Glasgow Steel Nail Company (http://www.glasgowsteelnail.com/). I also bought several smaller sizes, but I can't remember who from.

jmk89
9th August 2011, 12:03 PM
Thanks WW

Just wondered if there was anyone who carried them in Oz

Woodwould
9th August 2011, 12:18 PM
Ajax in Melbourne used to make all sorts of cut nails. I was involved with a large architectural job some years ago which required several thousand floor nails. Ajax looked into dragging one of their machines back into service, but apparently it was too worn to produce the nails required.

There may be other manufacturers in Oz with old machinery sitting around, but to the best of my knowledge, nobody here is currently manufacturing cut nails.

Groggy
9th August 2011, 01:02 PM
LV have a limited range (http://www.leevalley.com/US/hardware/page.aspx?p=41324&cat=3,41306)

Fuzzie
9th August 2011, 01:17 PM
Mmmm, I smell cake.

Woodwould
9th August 2011, 01:53 PM
LV have a limited range (http://www.leevalley.com/US/hardware/page.aspx?p=41324&cat=3,41306)

LV's 'headless brads' are the type I used for this little job, but the ones I used were 5/8" long.

Woodwould
9th August 2011, 01:54 PM
Mmmm, I smell cake.
There's a distinct lack of cake here today (anyone coming this way?), so I've had to resort to chocolate to keep up the energy.

mic-d
9th August 2011, 02:15 PM
I once told herself "you caddy" as a way of inviting her to golf. Ahem, I gave up playing soon after that.

Goods and Chattels sell a type of cut nail, it's in their restoration catalog.

Nice caddy WW. Will there be partitions with big SMTWTFS emblazoned on them?:p:)


EDIT. How about seven of these (http://www.small-time.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/georgian_knife_box.jpg)? Your job could be to remove their guts and replace it with vertical partitions. :D

Woodwould
9th August 2011, 02:54 PM
Good idea! It's a bit late to cut grooves for partitions, but I could hot glue some partitions in place. :thyel:

conwood
9th August 2011, 03:04 PM
an inside view would be nice Woodwould.
Lovely work BTW

cheers
conwood

Ozkaban
9th August 2011, 03:06 PM
When a recent visitor opined the view it was a shame I should have as inelegant a tin box in such a conspicuous position – particularly in light of the other items I had made around the house – I could bear it no longer. I had to make a caddy of some description.


Isn't there a pill you can take for this ?? :D

Nice work as usual, WW. I had assumed that you'd have dividers on the inside. I will be interested to see how you end up doing the inside.

Cheers,
Dave

Harry72
9th August 2011, 04:54 PM
Nice Cadillacs :D

Woodwould
9th August 2011, 05:03 PM
Isn't there a pill you can take for this ?? :D
Opinionated visitors or the compulsion to make furniture?


I had assumed that you'd have dividers on the inside. I will be interested to see how you end up doing the inside.
As mentioned, the interior will be lined with paper.

mic-d
9th August 2011, 05:14 PM
WW, I assume the yew moulding slips you mitred and glued on are a sort of lipping around the panel for the lid, so the moulding would be struck into yew wood? Were the two short slips cut cross-grain so they appeared as end grain in the moulding?

Woodwould
9th August 2011, 05:55 PM
WW, I assume the yew moulding slips you mitred and glued on are a sort of lipping around the panel for the lid, so the moulding would be struck into yew wood?
Correct.


Were the two short slips cut cross-grain so they appeared as end grain in the moulding?
All the mouldings are long-grained. Sometimes the moulding round the lids are moulded in-situ in solid timber.

Phil Spencer
9th August 2011, 06:36 PM
Make a nice man box for the TV remote and 3D glasses :)

jimbur
9th August 2011, 10:16 PM
A question WW. Was it really pure lead foil that was used to line tea caddies or was it alloyed with any other metal such as tin?
Magnificent as always.
Cheers,
Jim

Woodwould
9th August 2011, 11:48 PM
A question WW. Was it really pure lead foil that was used to line tea caddies or was it alloyed with any other metal such as tin?
Magnificent as always.
Cheers,
Jim
Pewter would have been somewhat less toxic, but tea caddy foil was pure lead.

Big Shed
9th August 2011, 11:54 PM
Pewter would have been somewhat less toxic, but tea caddy foil was pure lead.

............could explain why "mad dogs and Englishmen went out in the midday sun":D

Christos
10th August 2011, 12:12 AM
............could explain why "mad dogs and Englishmen went out in the midday sun":D

Just because I drink tea does not make me mad.

Sometimes very peaceful. :U

Woodwould
15th September 2011, 08:45 AM
The reproduction arsedine – procured from Optimum Brasses – is copied directly from eighteenth-century examples and cast in period-correct brass alloy.

The paper lining necessitated the underside of the lid to be unobstructed, so I shortened the pommel threads significantly and recessed the pommel nuts into the lid. The nuts were slotted so they could be tightened with a forked screwdriver once within the recesses.

I tidied up the brasses; filing off casting flashes and smoothing away grinding marks before buffing and colouring them.


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The fettled and polished arsedine.

After polishing the exterior of the caddy, I attached the handle to the lid and plugged the nut recesses.


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Pommel nuts recessed into lid.


The lid was attached to the box with a pair of small brass stop-hinges and the escutcheon was pinned to the front of the caddy.


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The caddy, lightly aged.


I made a couple of sheets of combed marbled paper – a popular pattern during the eighteenth-century – and lined the caddy with it using traditional paste made from flour and water.


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The stop hinges hold the lid open.


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The marbled interior.

Christos
15th September 2011, 08:59 AM
I like the Tea Caddy but not a fan on the marble paper. Thank you for the update.

Sawdust Maker
15th September 2011, 09:18 AM
Nice work, sir :clap:

Phil Spencer
15th September 2011, 09:44 AM
Love it :2tsup::2tsup: you have set a benchmark for my man boxes.

Fuzzie
15th September 2011, 10:37 AM
Having been exposed to so much laminate veneered compressed oatmeal over the years, I don't think I have properly appreciated what can be achieved by a master craftsman with material that might otherwise have ended up in the firewood pile.

If you had asked me prior to watching this thread what a veneered box might look like, this is not what would have immediately sprung to mind! When I saw the original in the white, I was nonplussed by what looked to me to be a slice of questionable gum knotted wood glued over some offcuts of pine :).

Another beautiful result, aesthetic balance and subtle understatement (lightly aged :U ).

:2tsup:

Blue-deviled
15th September 2011, 03:26 PM
Marbelous!

artme
15th September 2011, 04:21 PM
:?:?:? Where was I while this was happening??

Do not answer that!!!:B

Beuatiful piece WW.:2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:

I remember making marbled paper at school when I was about 8-9. We then made school magazine covers and used the paper to line the inside. Also made paste from starch to do so.

I have the process tucked away in the back of my cluttered mind and aim to make use of it for a couple of projects.

Woodwould
15th September 2011, 07:13 PM
:?:?:? Where was I while this was happening??

Do not answer that!!!:B

Beuatiful piece WW.:2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:

I remember making marbled paper at school when I was about 8-9. We then made school magazine covers and used the paper to line the inside. Also made paste from starch to do so.

I have the process tucked away in the back of my cluttered mind and aim to make use of it for a couple of projects.

I remember making marbled paper in my childhood too. It was one of those wet weather distractions we did during school holidays. I once covered a crap-wrap tube with it and made it into a pen holder for a gift. I also remember making seemingly miles of paper chains with coloured paper and flour paste for Christmas decorations. It's like riding a bicycle...

mic-d
15th September 2011, 07:43 PM
Looks good. Reminds me of the inside of an old telephone box.:D

Blue-deviled
15th September 2011, 09:59 PM
Looks good. Reminds me of the inside of an old telephone box.:D

I trust it doesn't smell the same!

Fuzzie
16th September 2011, 07:21 AM
Looks good. Reminds me of the inside of an old telephone box.:D
I seem to remember they were sponged not marbled.

Woodwould
16th September 2011, 08:06 AM
I seem to remember they were sponged...

Not frequently enough as I recall.