Some more turning jigs.

[Sturdee]

As the weather has been to cold to work on the woodstore I have spent a few days working in the workshop on my to do list.

The new mini lathe has again reminded me that the bench for the main lathe is too high and so turning is not as comfortable as it should be. So I have taken away a layer of drawers and lowered the bench 100mm. This now puts the lathe at the height it should be.

I also made a steady rest, some doughnut chucks and refaced the adjustable jamb chucks that were worn out.

Details are below.


Peter.

[Sturdee]

Based on the designs posted on the forum I made a larger steady rest using old roller blade wheels to complement the smaller one I've got.

Basic design using 5/8" threaded rod and nuts from Bunnings (using up a gift card :2tsup:) and some old timber flooring.

Photo 1 shows the details and photo 2 shows it bolted on the lathe.

It is as steady as a rock but I will still araldyte the bottom nuts together on Monday.


Peter.

[Sturdee]

I made two doughnut chucks, one small and one large, using some old ply and MDF pieces and a couple of old faceplates.

The base is covered with a non slip covering and I marked circles to assist with centering. Still need to make some more rings for the larger one but I ran out of ply.

Photos 1 and 2 show the two chucks and photos 3 & 4 the reverse side.


Peter.

[Sturdee]

I made some adjustable jamb chucks a while back using chucks and cole jaws as I wass sick of not getting jamb chucks quite right. They were either a bit too small and the I misjudged it and enlarged it too much.

Now I open the faces a tad , cut the jamb chuck and either open or close it to suit. It has been a boon to me, so much that I had to again replace the sacrificial tops.

I have 2, again a small one and a larger one, so photo 1 shows the front of both and photo 2 shows the back.


Enjoy.


Peter.

[artme]

Good for you Peter!:):):)

That gives you more scope with your turning.

I have seen illustrations of a similar steady but it had two wheels at the top as well as the bottom.

I've often wondered if steadies should have a brace ( somehow! ) That runs from the top of the steady back to the lathe bed to prevent any back and forth movement,

[wheelinround]

Good stuff Peter :2tsup:

[Sturdee]

Good for you Peter!:):):)

That gives you more scope with your turning.

I have seen illustrations of a similar steady but it had two wheels at the top as well as the bottom.

I've often wondered if steadies should have a brace ( somehow! ) That runs from the top of the steady back to the lathe bed to prevent any back and forth movement,

Thanks for the comments.

I've seen the ones with two top wheels as well, I suppose use will tell me if I need to alter it. If so it's easy enough as I've got lots of wheels and for enlarging the hole I've got a bench top chisel morticer. Made it nice and easy. :U


Whether it needs bracing , again time will tell and it can be done by fixing a swinging bracket to the wall behind.


Peter.

[Sturdee]

Good stuff Peter :2tsup:

Thanks Ray,

I enjoy making these things as it increases the possibilities.

The next 3 top of the list projects are:

- A floor support stand for outboard turning, I'm getting bits and pieces together for this.

- An oval turning machine similar to the one Ad de Crom has made. I have obtained David Springett DVD and book on the subject as well as Ad's plans and am working on getting the specialised bits needed.

- And the indexed bowl (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f22/indexed-bowls-113827/) jig that you have posted. Studied your Pdf files and photos and am planning to make it out of 19mm thick 7 ply rather than aluminium. It's easier to work with wood for me.:U


Peter.

[wheelinround]

Thanks Ray,

I enjoy making these things as it increases the possibilities.

The next 3 top of the list projects are:

- A floor support stand for outboard turning, I'm getting bits and pieces together for this.

- An oval turning machine similar to the one Ad de Crom has made. I have obtained David Springett DVD and book on the subject as well as Ad's plans and am working on getting the specialised bits needed.

- And the indexed bowl (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f22/indexed-bowls-113827/) jig that you have posted. Studied your Pdf files and photos and am planning to make it out of 19mm thick 7 ply rather than aluminium. It's easier to work with wood for me.:U


Peter.

Peter I hope you downloaded the newest updates if not try here (http://www.otga.org.au/Gallery_files/8th%20June%202010%20Update%20The%20OTGA%20Off%20Centre%20Bowl%20Chuck%20FULL.pdf) for the Index Jig :2tsup:

The OTGA do make an Oval turning device not sure what Tom charges.

[Sturdee]

Peter I hope you downloaded the newest updates if not try here (http://www.otga.org.au/Gallery_files/8th%20June%202010%20Update%20The%20OTGA%20Off%20Centre%20Bowl%20Chuck%20FULL.pdf) for the Index Jig :2tsup:

The OTGA do make an Oval turning device not sure what Tom charges.

Yes, Ray, that's the plan I'm working from. Ever since I saw it I've been interested in making this so now is the time. If I get into difficulties I'll let you know.

For the occasional use of the oval turning jig I'm happy to make it, now that I fully understand the workings of it :D, out of bits and pieces that I have. I just need a steel shaft with a MT2 at one end and tapped at both end for threaded rods and suitable bearers and a pipe flange.


Peter.

[wheelinround]

Yes, Ray, that's the plan I'm working from. Ever since I saw it I've been interested in making this so now is the time. If I get into difficulties I'll let you know.

For the occasional use of the oval turning jig I'm happy to make it, now that I fully understand the workings of it :D, out of bits and pieces that I have. I just need a steel shaft with a MT2 at one end and tapped at both end for threaded rods and suitable bearers and a pipe flange.


Peter.


I foresee an Oval device WiP coming soon :U:;

I know Enzo of Vermec sells them too $800

[Ad de Crom]

Peter, nice stuff, it's lovely to see people made their home made stuff.
About the oval device, the hardest part is the steel spindle.
I was lucky with having a steel spindle from a chuck of a slitting line.
Ad

[Sturdee]

Peter, nice stuff, it's lovely to see people made their home made stuff.
About the oval device, the hardest part is the steel spindle.
I was lucky with having a steel spindle from a chuck of a slitting line.
Ad

Thanks Ad. I hope the spindle will not be too much of a problem.

Through the Mens shed I got to know a metal turner who can make it. He has made an alignment tool for my lathe with MT2 at either end and the steel shaft for a deep hollowing chucking device, still being worked on, so I hope he can make this as well.


Peter.

[Sturdee]

I foresee an Oval device WiP coming soon :U:;

I know Enzo of Vermec sells them too $800

Yes, I think the makings would make a good WIP and a lot cheaper too. :D


Peter.

[BobL]

Nice work Sturdee. Keep em coming!

[letzzzgo]

Well done Peter! A great job on all the tools, particularly the steady! :2tsup:

[Sturdee]

Well done Peter! A great job on all the tools, particularly the steady! :2tsup:

Thanks John, your measurements helped a lot although I had to adept it to suit my lathe.


Peter.

[Sturdee]

Through the Mens shed I got to know a metal turner who can make it. He has made an alignment tool for my lathe with MT2 at either end and the steel shaft for a deep hollowing chucking device, still being worked on, so I hope he can make this as well.


Peter.

I had a long chat today with my metal turning mate and he will be making a metal spindle to suit, a set of bearers and a flange so the project to make a n oval turning chuck is a goer.

This is an interesting project, to do it I obtained a copy of David Springett's DVD from a library in Canberra, his book from a library in the Latrobe valley and Ad's plans from Holland. Now with the input and help of my metal turner my version of an oval chuck, although it might take a little while, is definitely on the go.


Peter.

[wheelinround]

:2tsup::2tsup:

[hughie]

This is an interesting project, to do it I obtained a copy of David Springett's DVD from a library in Canberra, his book from a library in the Latrobe valley and Ad's plans from Holland. Now with the input and help of my metal turner my version of an oval chuck, although it might take a little while, is definitely on the go.



This definitley the way to go, for me the price of an oval turning attachment is way over the top . :o :C :U

[Sturdee]

- A floor support stand for outboard turning, I'm getting bits and pieces together for this.




I've been looking at ways of making this, searching for pipes with a suitable internal diameter, floor stands etc. Not finding anything suitable from my usual sources in desperation I looked in my storage sheds and found two old metal adjustable side tables.

We bought these about 20 years ago and they did valiant service and when no longer needed they were used by my daughter and finally relegated to storage. The great thing about these is that they are modular and the ID of the main shaft is just what I needed. So with a few hours of labour I got a floor support stand for outboard turning. :2tsup:

Photo 1 shows the adjustable side table and photo 2 with the top unscrewed and removed.

Photo 3 shows the second shaft with the top plastic sleeve knocked out. BTW this was the most difficult part as I had to tap it out through the bottom and I didn't have a long enough thin metal rod to do it. This shaft is screwed into the other one and the base is discarded.

Photo 4 shows the base. Because the base is not solid at the bottom and I have thick rubber matting in the workshop it moved a bit and I made a ply base for the bottom to match the scalloped base.

This is bolted through the centre and the metal base into the shaft itself. Additionally the base had 5 rubber stoppers which I removed and I epoxied 10mm dowels into the holes and ply base.

Photo 5 shows the base complete but still needing a coat of paint to match.

Photos 6 & 7 shows the stand in position. It is solid as a rock and doesn't move.

Another project finished and again at no cost as I only used recycled materials. :2tsup:

Peter.

[wheelinround]

Peter great support :2tsup: will you be making a stand alone one also?

[Sturdee]

Thanks Ray, no just this one as I don't think a stand alone one is necessary.

I have access to a spare bowl turning extension (from my daughter's lathe) so with that I have plenty of scope for most configurations.


Peter.

[letzzzgo]

Peter without using the floor for support, how "sturdee" was your attachment. It looks quite robust! I too would like to make one.

Cheers
John

[wheelinround]

Peter without using the floor for support, how "sturdee" was your attachment. It looks quite robust! I too would like to make one.

Cheers
John

John if your referring to the outrigger it comes with the Wl18 and are quite robust with out the floor stand, depending of course on stability of the lathe.

[letzzzgo]

John if your referring to the outrigger it comes with the Wl18 and are quite robust with out the floor stand, depending of course on stability of the lathe.

Yes Ray, the outrigger in the pic looks robust enough by itself not to require further support from the floor.

[Sturdee]

Peter without using the floor for support, how "sturdee" was your attachment. It looks quite robust! I too would like to make one.

Cheers
John

John, the only time I tried turning outboard was with the adapted banjo from my old lathe and the single outrigger. That moved and also kept twisting, ever so slightly but annoying.

I haven't tried it yet with the correct banjo and extra outrigger from Michelle's lathe instead of the old banjo and one outrigger, so maybe it isn't necessary, but as I had the bits and it only involved a few hours of my time I'm glad I made it.

If you like you're welcome to call in and inspect it.


Peter.

[Sturdee]

Ray, for your info here is a photo of the progress to date on the chuck. So far going along fine. Still need to make the centre boss and the weights. I'm giving all the ply a few coats of shellac as a preservative.


Peter.

[letzzzgo]

If you like you're welcome to call in and inspect it.


Peter.

Thanks Peter! I will send you a PM to arrange a suitable time next week.
John

[Sawdust Maker]

Re the outrigger - I had one with my H&F clone.

when doing an outboard turning I managed to get a good catch which cracked the casing on the banjo outrigger, broke it actually

A support like Peter's would, IMHO, lesson the likelihood of that happening

Peter, great adaption as usual

[Sturdee]

Peter without using the floor for support, how "sturdee" was your attachment. It looks quite robust! I too would like to make one.

Cheers
John

and




If you like you're welcome to call in and inspect it.


Peter.


:2tsup:

It passed both John and Joe's inspection when they called in this morning. Had a lovely renewing our friendship and looking through my workshop.

I will look forward to see, in due course, both your outboard turning support systems.

Peter.

[Sturdee]

For some time now I felt the need for a longer tool rest than the ones that come with the lathe. Having access to second banjo I decided to make a long one using two tool posts.

I got some old angle iron 450mm long, cleaned the rust and flattened the top using the old scary sharp system. This is similar to flattening plane bottoms by going back and forth on a strip of sandpaper glued to a long piece of glass.

I then drilled holes to secure the timber infill and the tool posts. The tool posts are the modular ones made by Sorby and are secured to the angle iron with the appropriate nuts from my bolts place.

I then cut a piece of timber to suit and drilled recesses to take the nuts. Photos 1 & 2 show the details before assembly.

After assembling the timber to the angle iron with screws, I sanded it all again and applied two coats of low sheen WOP followed with a coat of Ubeaut's Trad wax.

It is smooth and solid and sits nicely on the lathe in the two banjos as per photo 3. Took a day to make and I think I might make a 600mm as well.


Enjoy,


Peter.

[letzzzgo]

If you like you're welcome to call in and inspect it.


Peter.

This morning joevan and myself accepted Sturdee's invitation to check out his 'outboard turning attachment' at his home. I'm very impressed! Not just the attachment, but with all his other home made tools and jigs. He has been a busy boy! And so neat, every tool, machine and jig has it's own special place.
I'm not sure if there is any turning going on, but his shed is very well organised
Peter, thanks for the invite - Joe and I came away in awe.:U

Cheers
John

[artme]

Another good job Peter.:):)

Awaiting the oval turning jig with great interest.

[joevan]

Hello Peter,
From pictures posted previously by you I did not expect any sawdust or wood shavings in your shed. But to my surprise, there is wood work going on in that shed, there was wood dust everywhere and Peter demonstrated how his dust extraction system works. I was very impressed with the whole setup, each tool or gadget has its own specific place, a most efficient setup and dispensing system for the sand paper you use and there is place for all the different types and sizes of wood screws and nails. Not to mention the number of G-clamps in your shed. A most imperssive setup. You put me to shame when I compare my disorganised shed wit yours.
Many thanks and regards Joe v K.

[Sturdee]

Awaiting the oval turning jig with great interest.

It's still in the investigating stage as to the best way of doing it, although I already have got the spindle, bearings and flange for it.

Have to finish the jigs and projects already planned first before starting on this.

Peter.