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morrisman
22nd September 2011, 12:34 PM
hello

I picked these up at a hamfest ..the guy had quite a lot of them at a giveaway price

I think they are mostly carbon steel so maybe only useable for softish metals-brass and aluminium ? He had #2 to 10 .... did I do well chaps ?

Mike

Abratool
22nd September 2011, 12:55 PM
hello

I picked these up at a hamfest ..the guy had quite a lot of them at a giveaway price

I think they are mostly carbon steel so maybe only useable for softish metals-brass and aluminium ? He had #2 to 10 .... did I do well chaps ?

Mike
Mike
You did very well.
Very handy, thread taps in BA thread form.
Nothing wrong with carbon steel taps, treated carefully they will last for years, & yes they will tap steel very well. I have a set & have tapped heaps of all metals including steel, with no problems. The main thing to remember is to use the correct size tapping drill & cutting oil like "Tap Magic" or equivalent.Everyone has their favourite oil.
The Pratt & Whitney taps you got hold of are a collectable piece of history.
Enjoy your tapping!
regards
Bruce:)

simonl
22nd September 2011, 02:46 PM
That's an awesome pick up.

I concur about carbon steel. Nothing wrong with it. I think HSS became popular because of it's longevity in production work many years ago. Now they have TCT tools. For the home use and treated well, will be a good investment.

That's my uneducated opinion past onto me from my father who did his fitting & turning apprenticeship with AEG in germany just after the war....
He also showed me the grinder test to distinguish between carbon and HS steel.
Amazing the stuff you remember from your parents..

RIP Dad. :roll:

Simon

morrisman
22nd September 2011, 03:38 PM
Righto .....Yes, I guess I was just fortunate for once .

I had an old Land Rover that used #3 BA tapped holes around the main windscreen frame to fix the outer frame ... what pain it was ... that car had many of those oddities come to think of it. I've been told or read somewhere , the even sizes are the norm in industry 2 4 6 etc ... I've seen many BA screws on older electronic gear as well .. valve radios etc. We can thank the Pomms for it.

Mike

Swarfmaker1
22nd September 2011, 07:15 PM
Quite a good deal there. I believe carbon steel are harder than HSS but HSS is tougher and lasts longer,more wear resistant. Sounds a bit strange but I read it somewhere. I haven't confirmed it.

Abratool
22nd September 2011, 10:35 PM
Righto .....Yes, I guess I was just fortunate for once .

I had an old Land Rover that used #3 BA tapped holes around the main windscreen frame to fix the outer frame ... what pain it was ... that car had many of those oddities come to think of it. I've been told or read somewhere , the even sizes are the norm in industry 2 4 6 etc ... I've seen many BA screws on older electronic gear as well .. valve radios etc. We can thank the Pomms for it.

Mike

Mike
Who else would come up with a thread form with an angle of 47 & a 1/2 degrees.
I have often wondered how that came about?
Bruce:)

morrisman
22nd September 2011, 11:58 PM
BTW if anyone needs BA screws. Classic fasteners in Adelaide usually has a good range of them. MIKE

Classic Fasteners - Fasteners for your vehicle restoration project. (http://www.classicfasteners.com.au/)

Swarfmaker1
23rd September 2011, 07:38 AM
Mike
Who else would come up with a thread form with an angle of 47 & a 1/2 degrees.
I have often wondered how that came about?
Bruce:)

BA was a scientifically engineered threading system see here:

British Association screw threads - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BA_thread_size#BA_thread_sizes)

I suspect the 47.5deg form was for non interchangability between it and the other systems.

Stustoys
23rd September 2011, 03:36 PM
Is a thread that measure 3.05mm Dia and 5.3mm over 9 pitchs going to be anything other that 5BA?

Stuart

Swarfmaker1
23rd September 2011, 05:16 PM
Stuart, that's pretty close to 43 TPI which suggests it is 5BA.


Is a thread that measure 3.05mm Dia and 5.3mm over 9 pitchs going to be anything other that 5BA?

Stuart