E****d 26th September 2011, 07:22 PM It Measures
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all is solid
Thankyou
underfoot 27th September 2011, 05:52 AM There's a funny thing about burl tables....
many times I've seen the raw materials sell for more than the finished product...
another one of life's little mysteries I guess :rolleyes:
BobL 27th September 2011, 08:08 AM From the photos supplied I'd classify it as rustic so I'd put it in the 200-400 hundred $ range. I have yet to see a whole burl slice incorporated into a table that I would call fine furniture.
ceilingsofperth 27th September 2011, 11:37 PM I made my own so I'm also interested in the value of these things. I went to The Jarrah Co in Fremantle & they had 1 similar to mine (in pics below) but without shelf for $1600. It might give you some sort of idea of value for yours......
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/Beardedshark/Woodworkprojects009.jpg
BobL 27th September 2011, 11:48 PM Unfortunately that photo is unlikely to sell anything to anyone.
There is a big difference between the price of most quality items in a store like The Jarrah Co and one bought from a home workshop. The main difference is one is already standing inside a retail store and the other one is standing inside a garage and being advertized via crappy photos. Even if the items were made to the same quality standard no price savy customer will expect to pay the same price for the identical item in these two locations. A better indication of what it is worth is to take the item along to a furniture store and see what they will give you for it.
ceilingsofperth 28th September 2011, 12:01 AM No one is advertising anything. It's not for sale. Don't be so pessimistic mate. Are you pickin on my table or my camera? Camera is crap, I know & pic was taken quickly 5 mins ago. That pic doesn't do the coffee table any justice & it's not sealed yet anyway. It needs a final sand then to be coated with a polyeurethane or similar. I'd like to see you do better using hand tools only!!!
All this is beside the point. I was only pointing out size & design as a comparison.
Cliff Rogers 28th September 2011, 12:33 AM There's a funny thing about burl tables....
many times I've seen the raw materials sell for more than the finished product...
another one of life's little mysteries I guess :rolleyes:
Nailed it. :2tsup:
BobL 28th September 2011, 08:24 AM No one is advertising anything. It's not for sale.
That's fine because I'm not buying. This thread is about what home made stuff is worth so I will stick to that.
[/QUOTE]Are you pickin on my table or my camera? [/QUOTE]
Neither. I'm just picking on the photo. This forum is less about what members "say" and more about people "do" as demonstrated by photos. If the photos do not demonstrate what they do, then it's better for the rest of us they do not post such a photo
Camera is crap, I know & pic was taken quickly 5 mins ago. That pic doesn't do the coffee table any justice & it's not sealed yet anyway.
Great, then maybe say so, and then wait until you can at least post a half decent photo.
I'd like to see you do better using hand tools only!!!
I'm not knocking your workmanship, it could be first rate but I can't see it. Even if the workmanship is only so-so it doesn't matter either. I'm pointing out that irrespective of quality, the expectations about what their home made stuff is worth to other people in hard $$ relative to what is in a fine furniture store, is way over rated by most makers.
Vernonv 28th September 2011, 12:04 PM ... irrespective of quality, the expectations about what their home made stuff is worth to other people in hard $$ relative to what is in a fine furniture store, is way over rated by most makers.That unfortunately is what it often comes down to (i.e. unrealistic expectations). Just because you see something in a retail outlet, at a certain price, does not mean you will get anywhere close to that selling from home ... that is unless you already have an established name or brand that allows you to charge a premium.
derekcohen 28th September 2011, 05:22 PM It is worth as much as a Buyer will pay for it.
Bob is correct - the setting is relevant. A naive Buyer may not know how to distinguish between a quality made piece (with traditional joints and thoughtful design) and poorly constructed one (that is not going to last long owing to weak joints, lack of care to wood movement, and poor grain matching).
Is the Buyer searching for that special piece, or choosing according to the lowest price possible?
You can go on and on.
The Jarrah burl table looks nicely made. In an appropriate shop they could ask $400 - $800.
Regards from Perth
Derek
Ticky 30th September 2011, 01:30 AM No one is advertising anything. It's not for sale. Don't be so pessimistic mate. Are you pickin on my table or my camera? Camera is crap, I know & pic was taken quickly 5 mins ago. That pic doesn't do the coffee table any justice & it's not sealed yet anyway. It needs a final sand then to be coated with a polyeurethane or similar. I'd like to see you do better using hand tools only!!!
All this is beside the point. I was only pointing out size & design as a comparison.
Mate, I understand your point & so does Bob I recon. You are a new member but when you have been here for a while, you will find a very large % of posts on this forum are words of encouragement. Most people take any criticism as being well meaning & practicle. If you think about it, how will we improve our skills if everybody blows sunshine up our ass every time we post a pic.
Ed, Your table is very nice. A couple of weeks ago my sister asked me what sort of legs she shoud put on a burl she has & I suggested something very similar to what you have done. Don't worry too much about what it is worth mate, if somebody offers you a $value for it one day & you accept, then thats what it's worth.
Enjoy your woodwork mate because thats worth more than you will ever make in dollars for doing it. The average customer can't tell the difference between a dovetail & a staple, so you cant competewith the likes of IKAN'Tremember their name.
Steve
ceilingsofperth 1st October 2011, 11:40 AM Everybody knows something is only worth what you can get for it but that doesn't help you if you want an approximate value.
Whether or not it was made in someone's shed or manufactured in a professional workshop is irrellivent. Obviously you couldn't ask the same price as a shop but if you could find a similar product & the quality is the same, as long as your item is in pristine condition you could work out an approximate value.
If you want to be really politically correct you could question the reason for the value. If it's for item sale then that will differ from insurance value which would have to be what a replacement would cost from a retailer but lets not get pedantic.
I know also that the raw materials are often worth more than the finished product but that wasn't what the bloke was asking. He wanted a value figure. It's not rocket science & I can't believe all this fuss had to be made over it.
Wongo 1st October 2011, 01:36 PM Your picture isn't very clear, and it looks like the shelf is nailed to the rail. I am guessing it isn't the case for a $1,600 coffee table. So to do your coffee table justice, why don't you take some close-up shots to show off the joinery skills and workmanship?
robyn2839 1st October 2011, 03:20 PM never been a fan of freddy flintstone furniture,simply because to me it seems like it doesnt take much skill to knock a piece up out of a few odd slabs of timber,wack a few coats of poly on it then call it furniture,looks cheap and nasty,thats only my opinion ,having said that that is a beautiful burl you have used,and it may be exactly what catches someones eye ,.........bob
munruben 1st October 2011, 05:52 PM The table is quite nice and is aimed at a particular buyer. I think Derek has about nailed it at around the $400 mark and being a bit generous with his top estimate of $800 but for the right buyer, it may be. I would be a little more conservative and put a top figure of $600-$650 on it but as others have said, its worth what someone will pay for it and to someone it may be worth a lot more.
Bushmiller 1st October 2011, 06:27 PM I think part of the problem in pricing E****D's burl table is we are looking from two perspectives. Direct from the manufacturer and also from a retail outlet and they are rarely going to be the same.
So probably a top of $400 direct from a manufacturer and a top of $800 from the retailer are both realistic prices but also both debateable.
The retailer outlet probably has a choice of product which lends "standing," but particularly in this instance a single item is always going to battle.
Having said all of that, the burl looks to have interesting character and this is always difficult to capture in a photo.
Regards
Paul
jimbur 2nd October 2011, 12:22 PM There is another problem with burl furniture especially dark timber. It is very 'demanding' and often does not fit in easily with other furniture and, in my opinion, can be more suited to open areas such as foyers etc. No matter how enjoyable it is to see the beauty of the grain most people buy furniture to complement their existing decor. This is where retail outlets with a large throughput of customers hold the edge in selling such specialist items.
Cheers,
Jim
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