Interesting show about machine tools [Archive]

Anorak Bob

4th February 2012, 09:27 PM

Fascinating stuff Andre. The Shuttle turbo pump at 4.00 is something to behold. A pump that can drain an Olympic size pool in 59 seconds.:o!

BT

Stustoys

5th February 2012, 01:47 PM

Finailly Finished!!!
Just a couple of things.
Watt didnt create the steam engine. I dont believe he used a crank.

Stuart

Steamwhisperer

5th February 2012, 03:47 PM

Well picked up Stuart. He only modified it. Even then it was done after some industrial espionage.

Phil

steran50

5th February 2012, 08:42 PM

HI:),
Thankyou Andre that was quite an interesting and well presented Doco.

jhovel

5th February 2012, 09:49 PM

I had a look at some other movies in that series: hand tools and power tools. Just as unteresting....
Thanks Andre.
Joe

eskimo

6th February 2012, 12:02 PM

Finailly Finished!!!
Just a couple of things.
Watt didnt create the steam engine. I dont believe he used a crank.

Stuart

they didnt say he invented the steam engine

It said, he "created a steam engine dependable enough to power" etc etc

Stustoys

6th February 2012, 12:43 PM

It said, he "created a steam engine dependable enough to power" etc etc
He didn't do that either, he invented the external condenser which improved the efficiency of the current steam engines by about 400%. Early on at least he was paid by how much fuel was saved.

At least thats how I remember the book I read about him 20ish years ago.

Stuart

steran50

6th February 2012, 01:01 PM

HI:),
Here are Several Links
James Watt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watt) , History of the Steam Engine - James Watt (http://inventors.about.com/od/wstartinventors/a/JamesWatt.htm) Well He certainly didn't Invent Steam Engines if they were being used when he was Born (latter Link), Watt steam engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt_steam_engine) , Steam Engine History (http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blsteamengine.htm) , Inventor James Watt Biography (http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventors/watt.htm) , Who Invented The Steam Engine? - History - Questions & Answers (http://www.enotes.com/history/q-and-a/who-invented-steam-engine-288773) , James Watt - page 1 (http://www.cottontimes.co.uk/watto.htm) ,

eskimo

6th February 2012, 01:08 PM

HI:),
Here are Several Links
Who Invented The Steam Engine? - History - Questions & Answers (http://www.enotes.com/history/q-and-a/who-invented-steam-engine-288773)

so the clip was correct in what it said

Stustoys

6th February 2012, 02:14 PM

so the clip was correct in what it said
Not really, the Newcomen engine was working just fine before Watt(and Boulten) arrived.
I think you'll find that link is a mix of times, dates and machines.
I think Watts early engines were single acting atmospheric engines just like the Newcomen.
Even when he went to double acting engines later, I'm not sure this is correct "It also allowed for the use of steam pressure to move the piston in both directions"
The steam pressures used but Watt were very low. I think it was more a case of the vacuum on one side of the piston helping to fill the other side with steam.

I dont have the time today to go looking up the dates :(
And as always I could have most of that back to front.

Stuart

pipeclay

6th February 2012, 04:47 PM

Does it really matter.

Bryan

6th February 2012, 04:59 PM

Does it really matter.

Reliable as the Fremantle Doctor, or a Darwin storm - Pipeclay with 'does it matter?'. :)

Dave J

6th February 2012, 05:34 PM

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Steamwhisperer

6th February 2012, 07:40 PM

Reliable as the Fremantle Doctor, or a Darwin storm - Pipeclay with 'does it matter?'. :)

Bryan Bryan Bryan
You can't be serious. Historical accuracy doesn't matter!!!
My goodness( ummm insert smiley thingy here)
I'm with you Stuart

Phil
Actually I have a nice little Monarch 10EE for sale very very cheap. Sure the badge says Macson but who cares who really made it.
Phew, I feel better now, my dander is down now.( Insert a big bunch of smileys fellas)

matthew_g

6th February 2012, 07:49 PM

http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/animated%20emoticons/Smile%20Animated%20Emoticons/eat%20popcorn.gif
I'm with you on this one Dave

steran50

6th February 2012, 08:05 PM

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I like it Dave. I Posted the Links for a Reason and it seems to have done the Job, enough said.

Steamwhisperer

6th February 2012, 08:46 PM

Well done Steran. Very good links.
Wiki... Now there's an authority on thorough research

Phil

Bryan

6th February 2012, 09:07 PM

Move along people, nuthin' to see here. Just a bit of fun.

RayG

6th February 2012, 09:41 PM

Move along people, nuthin' to see here. Just a bit of fun.

Hi Bryan,

Your no fun, I was just getting intrigued by who actually did invent the steam engine...

I agree with whatever Phil says, when it comes to steam and historical accuracy he's the guru..

A lot of early machine invention credits don't actually go to the people who did the hard yards, often someone comes along afterwards and claims credit for the work of others.

Does it matter... of course it does. Anyone with a sense of history knows how important it is to "get it right"

Regards
Ray
Now where did Dave put the popcorn...:D

Just out of interest Phil, there is a panel on the right hand side of the edit box where you type your message... try clicking one of the little icons and that "smiley" will appear in the message at the cursor location... like this... :)

pipeclay

6th February 2012, 09:55 PM

Good to see you are playing with it well.
At least you have been able to detract from the informative if not totaly accurate post,well done.
Hopefully if someone is interested in this they will start from the 1st post.
Unfortunately from my experience from reading replies to numerous threads some people have a tendency to skip to the last post or page and give comments that dont relate to anything with anything to do with the original post.

Maybe there should be a seperate section for picking crap out of things.

Dave J

6th February 2012, 10:34 PM

I found the original post interesting, thanks Andre :2tsup: and it's also been an interesting read with the replies.
Since I don't much about the steam history beginning, I will sit back listen and learn.
Continue on guys:2tsup:
http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/animated%20emoticons/Smile%20Animated%20Emoticons/eat%20popcorn.gif

Dave

Bryan

6th February 2012, 10:43 PM

I found the original post interesting, thanks Andre :2tsup: and it's also been an interesting read with the replies.

Me too. My dig at Pipeclay was meant in a good-natured way. The smiley was supposed to convey that. I didn't mean to either 'pick the crap out of' anyone or derail the thread. Apologies for any offence.

Steamwhisperer

7th February 2012, 07:32 AM

Me too. My dig at Pipeclay was meant in a good-natured way. The smiley was supposed to convey that. I didn't mean to either 'pick the crap out of' anyone or derail the thread. Apologies for any offence.

No offence taken Bryan
Having met you in person, albeit brief, I quickly learnt you are incapable of offending anyone, least of all me.
A very condensed history of the steam engine coming soon.

Phil

Bryan

7th February 2012, 06:54 PM

Give me a chance Phil, I haven't really tried yet!

Steamwhisperer

7th February 2012, 09:10 PM

Give me a chance Phil, I haven't really tried yet!

You idiot:U:q:q:B:doh::C:o

RayG

7th February 2012, 09:22 PM

Hi Phil,

Welcome to smileyville, :2tsup:

Regards
Ray

Steamwhisperer

7th February 2012, 09:34 PM

woo hoo.
Thanks Ray:):D:rolleyes::wink::p:(:-:((:oo::cool::?:2tsup:

Phil

Dave J

7th February 2012, 09:43 PM

I was going to say I see Phil has worked out the smiley's.:2tsup:

Dave

Steamwhisperer

7th February 2012, 09:56 PM

Sorry fellas but I am going to be painful from now on....well more painful:aro-u::aro-r::aro-l::aro-d:
( i have no idea why but I thought they looked cool):D

Phil

jhovel

7th February 2012, 10:36 PM

Dear Phil,
you haven't seen anything yet!
At the bottom of the smilies panel it says [More]
Go click on that and scroll through the new window that opens - better still, maximise that window so you can see them better
:groupwave::groupwave:
Then you just click on whatever expresses your emotion best and close the window again.... (or leave it open in the background for future reference in your post)...
You'll like some of those....
Joe

Steamwhisperer

8th February 2012, 06:43 AM