bollie7 22nd April 2012, 08:12 PM G'day everyone.
I've been helping my fiance to clean out her late father's shed lately and we came across a couple of tools that I haven't seen before.
The first one I suspect is some sort of jig for wood working- perhaps for clamping to the edge of a bit of timber to allow dowel holes to be drilled? It has some interchangable sleeves with different dia holes in them. It has the letters "K B C" along one edge of the clamp side.
The other one I have no idea as to its purpose. The tape measure is to show the size.
On the inside the surface is dimpled. similar to a golf ball.
It appears to made from steel or possibly cast iron but I reckon steel.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
thanks
bollie7
Gerbilsquasher 22nd April 2012, 08:35 PM Tool #1.... dowel jig.
Tool #2 .... I reckon it is a sinker mold.
barkersegg 22nd April 2012, 08:35 PM Bollie7..................not sure what the second picture is of, but the first one is a copy (or perhaps an original?? Stanley Dowel Jig with various dies to suit different bit thicknesses... needs a bit of a cleanup...:D.....the second one could be some sort of paddle handle for an awl or brace but from the pics, bit hard to tell.....is the end internally threaded and does it look like it's broken off something???............Lee
Gerbilsquasher 22nd April 2012, 08:46 PM When MY daughter has a fiance the fiance better know what is in my daughter's father's shed because my daughter will know what they are and how to use them.
My brother in law once said if a man wants to marry my daughter he can prove it by buying me a new Harley. I'll settle for a 1960 Cadillac.
My son's fiance can buy me one too.:D
bollie7 22nd April 2012, 08:48 PM Gerbil S
The inside of it is concave so if it was used as a sinker mould the sinker wouldn't be able to be removed.
Lee
I've just had a closer look at the end of the spigot bit and it could have had some broken off it. The end is not square and the is a shallow hole in the end about 2 or 3mm deep, about 3 mm dia.
bollie7
Gerbilsquasher 22nd April 2012, 08:55 PM Gerbil S
The inside of it is concave so if it was used as a sinker mould the sinker wouldn't be able to be removed.
Lee
I've just had a closer look at the end of the spigot bit and it could have had some broken off it. The end is not square and the is a shallow hole in the end about 2 or 3mm deep, about 3 mm dia.
bollie7
I was guessing on tool #2....:wink:
bollie7 22nd April 2012, 09:06 PM I was guessing on tool #2....:wink:
Actually a sinker mould was my first thought as well until I had a closer look at it.
The old fella had a lot of crap, collected over years. Unfortunatley both under the house and the back shed have both had water through them so just about everything has at least a film of surface rust (flight rust? :) ) on it.
I came across a metal tool box ( average size about 400mm L X 180 - 200 W) that was 2/3rds full of 2" dia, Sutton split dies and guides plus a heap of taps. It had also been full of water long enough to rust a hole in the botton of the box which allowed the water to then drain away. Everything in the box was stuffed. I almost cried :( I had to scrap the lot.
bollie7
larrylinkert 22nd April 2012, 09:20 PM G'day Bollie7 and everyone else
Item number 2 is a Collar Makers Palm. They are a Saddlers tool for pushing and pulling needles through heavy leather when making horse collars. The dimpled end is held in the palm to push the needle. The dimples and deep cup shape stop the needle slipping and getting driven through your hand. The shallow hole in the other end is to get the needle in a bit further. Some have a diamond shaped hole cross ways near the end. This is to pull the needle. You put the pointy end of the needle through hole give the tool a bit of a twist to get a grip on the needle and pull the needle through.
...yay, I'm no longer a forum virgin...
Cheers, Simon.
.RC. 22nd April 2012, 09:35 PM The orange thing is a tape measure.....
No, no need to thank me, I am here to help... :D
rusty steel 22nd April 2012, 09:45 PM The first item is a KBC dowelling jig which came with a KBC 2 speed drill in a kit with other items including a saw attachment. About 1970s vintage. I have the identical jig and also the drill- still working.
Russell
bollie7 22nd April 2012, 09:45 PM Simon
I don't know if you are new to this forum or not but if so, then Welcome and thanks for your informative answer to my query.
It makes a lot of sense because he appear to have done a bit of uphostery and canvass work as some point.
thnaks
bollie7
matthew_g 23rd April 2012, 03:33 AM RC "The orange thing is a tape measure.....
No, no need to thank me, I am here to help..."
I'm not going to thank you until you explain it's use and who invented it....lol
drsed 23rd April 2012, 06:28 AM The orange thing is a tape measure.....
No, no need to thank me, I am here to help... :D
Thanks RC, that's the one I was confused with. Great responses for the easy ones as well, from Rusty and Simon,
larrylinkert 23rd April 2012, 12:59 PM Here's a picture of a clean one, if it works.
bluegum30 23rd April 2012, 01:54 PM here is an [interesting read]about that tool called a collar makers palm](TYWKIWDBI ("Tai-Wiki-Widbee"): Wherein I learn what a "collarmaker's palm" is... (http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com.au/2011/07/wherein-i-learn-what-collarmakers-palm.html))
larrylinkert 23rd April 2012, 02:23 PM G'day Bluegum30
The one in that article is, like it says, a sailmakers palm. There is no provision for pulling the needle. The Collar Makers Palm is a much sturdier tool. As you can imagine working a big needle and waxed thread through heavy leather needs a bit of grunt. Horses for courses.
Cheers, Simon.
RayG 23rd April 2012, 04:28 PM ...yay, I'm no longer a forum virgin...
Cheers, Simon.
Hi Simon, welcome to the forum. Lurking for 2 years? That's impressive restraint.
And it took a Collar Maker's Palm to get you out of lurk mode... :) equally impressive.
Whenever the HTPAA has a "whatsit" it sometimes seems to be a bit of a running gag, that any otherwise unidentifiable tool is classified as "unusual leather working tool" seems like as far as this one is concerned they would be right.
Regards
Ray
larrylinkert 23rd April 2012, 06:17 PM Procrastination is my middle name
Gerbilsquasher 23rd April 2012, 09:29 PM Without sounding like a smarty pants especially after the horse had bolted I was thinking that tool #2 was something used for bootmaking, just had a 'vibe' about stitching leather, but that is about as close as I was going to get.
When I croak I hope that it is mentioned that I kept my tools oiled until the day I died.
However, in the words of John Lennon: 'Life is what happens when you are busy making other plans'
Things get on top of of good people, even though it is sad, I don't think your fiance's late father had formulated a plot to render the Sutton split dies to be useless.
bollie7 23rd April 2012, 09:50 PM Things get on top of of good people, even though it is sad, I don't think your fiance's late father had formulated a plot to render the Sutton split dies to be useless.
Yep, I know what you are saying. The old fella's health wasn't the best for the last couple of years and he had that much stuff tucked away, he had probably forgotten he even had them.
Like my own father, he was born during the great depression and as a result they didn't like to throw anything away. Unfortunately that meant there is/was a lot of plain old rubbish with a few pearls mixed in with it.
One of the downsides to all this is the amount of cockies that have been living under the house (and as its an old place, in the house as well). I can now qualify as a mass killer.:D. Geez I hate them.
bollie7
bluegum30 24th April 2012, 01:44 PM ''Like my own father, he was born during the great depression and as a result they didn't like to throw anything away. Unfortunately that meant there is/was a lot of plain old rubbish with a few pearls mixed in with it.''
So true , and those genes are still flourshing today and the effort to exterminate them seems to have had no effect at all.
Simon the link about the palm tool i put up i thought about the missing part too,seems that there is a few different models, interesting that the one you put up is a naked model was wondering if that is how you used them or did they get a leather covering for a professional user.
Not rubbish to a woodie, but this is the tidy portion of my shed.
larrylinkert 24th April 2012, 07:29 PM G'day Bluegum30
Thats the way they are. I sent a picture in reply #14 with one in my hand. You're also holding an awl and a needle in the same hand. Not hard when you get used to it. The other one with the strap stays on your hand when you're playing with all that sail cloth.
Thats a nice stash of timber by the way.
Cheers, Simon.
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