Does anyone see any problems with this?

[doug3030]

HI Tritoneers,

I am thinking about a fairly serious modification to my Tra001. It is about to be mounted permanently in an Incra router table with an Incra LS positioner fence. I used to use it hand-held too but due to a hand injury (not woodwork related, it was sustained while defending myself against a knife attack) I cant hold it any more but have picked up the smaller mof001 for hand held use.

I am enclosing the underneath of the table for dust extraction and noise reduction. I also want to make provision for a clean air source for the router by fixing either 100mm dust collection hose or pvc pipe to or in place of the black cap that air is sucked into on the top of the router to cool the motor thereby sourcing clean air from outside of the encolsed dust collection box under the router table.

Problem is; It is hard enough to get at the speed control when the router is under the table, let alone when there is another pipe attached to the top of the router getting in the way, and I bet I am not the only one who doesnt adjust it every time we should. So tonight I looked at how the speed control is attached to the router to see how hard it would be to move it to a more accessible position mounted on the table probably somewhere near the table on/off switch to remind me to adjust it if necessary before switching on.

Well when you undo the two screws holding the black cap on top of the router and remove the cap, the speed control dial lifts straight off, but is still attached by three short wires. Can anyone see a problem with making a wiring harness to extend those three wires to relocate the speed control to a more convenient site on the table? I note tht the end of the motor shaft of the router fits into a recess in the middle of the speed control module but it does not seem to touch it at all. Is gther some reason that this spatial relationship exists for the functioning of the router and the speed control or is it purely cosmetic?

Thanks

Doug

[Lyle]

I'm not sure but I think there is a speed sensor built into the round bit you are removing. It doesn't touch the motor but sits in close proximity and needs to be there.
a photo of what you are taking off will help too.
I'n sure ray in the UK could tell you more. He's on here a fair bit.

Lyle.

[snowyskiesau]

The exploded schematic diagram (http://www.triton.net.au/Images/Products/media/330165_Schm.pdf)shows a magnet assemble on the rotor shaft which is (probably) used by the speed controller to detect the motor speed so moving the controller board would not work.

[rayintheuk]

Lyle is absolutely correct. Look at the photograph below and you will see the sensor ring he refers to, mounted at the top end of the motor shaft (dark brown colour).

http://www.raygirling.co.uk/images/trrep05.jpg

Moving the speed control itself would be no problem with simply extending the loom, but - having decided on a speed setting, there would be no sensor ring rotating within the speed controller unit to regulate the speed. I haven't tried it, but my guess would be that it either would run flat out, or not at all. Good thought, but not a good idea - sorry! :)

Ray

[doug3030]

Thanks to Lyle, Snowy and Ray for your input. I suspected this may be the case. That would have been too easy wouldnt it. I wonder how hard it would be to separate the dial from the sensor.........

[snowyskiesau]

AN external speed controller (http://www.vhipe.com/product-private/SuperPID.htm) would do the trick assuming that the Triton built in controller can be bypassed i.e. router set to full speed.. Not a cheap option though.

[doug3030]

AN external speed controller (http://www.vhipe.com/product-private/SuperPID.htm) would do the trick assuming that the Triton built in controller can be bypassed i.e. router set to full speed.. Not a cheap option though.


I had thought of that but it does seem a bit of a belt and braces approach. A variable speed controller for a variable speed tool. But I DO like the link to the spped controller you posted.

[Glennet]

AN external speed controller (http://www.vhipe.com/product-private/SuperPID.htm) would do the trick assuming that the Triton built in controller can be bypassed i.e. router set to full speed.. Not a cheap option though.

Very interesting. If it was plug and play I'd be very interested but I read the specs and fitting it looks to be a fairly major project with plenty of room for complications.

But it does tell you how to disable the inbuilt speed control for a router, which might be a start. Given that it might be possible to find a simpler and cheaper control on the market.

Edit:

Something like this, if you could disable the speed control and soft start on the Triton:

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&pq=electronic+speed+controllers&cp=35&gs_id=4v&xhr=t&q=electronic+speed+controllers+router&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=857&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=11075585652995078626&sa=X&ei=KenCT7fGOOfTmAWRtaCwCg&sqi=2&ved=0CJ0BEPMCMAQ

This has started me thinking what an advantage it would be, even if it meant buying a new router.