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liolor
14th June 2012, 07:29 PM
dear Sirs,

I'm interested in recorder (flute) making and for this I would need a curved tool like the one in the attached pictures. It's a traditional hand-tool, like a scraper used to scrape the recorder winday. It looks like a broach (it's not a file, it has teeth), it cuts by pulling and not by pushing and it has a curved section. Maybe you have an idea how to make this, or even some of you could make it ...thank you very much for any help you could give me. Greetings from Italy

Lorenzo

Sebastiaan56
20th June 2012, 12:35 PM
Welcome to the forum Lorenzo,

If you search the posts by a user named Liogier you will find contact details. Or you could use the forum PM system.There would be a demand for these, have you tried the "Recorder Homepage" Recorder Home Page : Splash Page (http://www.recorderhomepage.net/)

Bushmiller
21st August 2012, 02:33 PM
Hello Lorenzo

I am not sure what the tool is called but it is similar to a float plane although the teeth go in the opposite direction.

I think you will find what you are loolking for in this thread as Sebastian has mentioned.

http://www.woodworkforums.com/f11/hand-stitched-rasps-136172/

In post #4 Liogier has a video and at about the 4m 50sec mark there is exactly a picture of you rasp. You can probably contact Liogier by PM particularly because of your location.

You may also like to contact our forum member FenceFurniture as he has organised some group purchases of Liogier's products and is in the process of another purchase. Again contact him by PM if you wish.

Regards
Paul

Regards
Paul

FenceFurniture
21st August 2012, 03:16 PM
Hi Lorenzo, and welcome.

Well, I think Liogier Rasps (near Lyon) will be able to produce exactly what you need. Noel (Liogier) just loves developing new tools, and we have developed several over the last 12 months. In fact, when he returns from holidays in September we are going start work on plane floats, which are reasonably similar to your tool, but without the curve.

This is the new Handle Makers Rasp:
http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/62924-fencefurniture/albums/liogier-rasps/9996-hmc-1.jpg

The Half Round side is stitched (in this case a #9 stitch)
http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/62924-fencefurniture/albums/liogier-rasps/9997-hmc-2.jpg


and the back is safe
http://www.woodworkforums.com/members/62924-fencefurniture/albums/liogier-rasps/9998-hmc-3.jpg


These can be highly customised. For example, you may want:


Both sides flat with the convex side stitched, and the other side safe
Or have a Half Round (as shown above) but curved the other way, so that the convex side is the half round side
Different stitching grains are available from #6 (coarse) to #15 (fine, like a 150 sandpaper finish). You can have 2 or 3 rasps if you wish, start with #9, then 12 then 15, depending on the surface finish you require.

There are 4-5 different half-round profiles available (different radii), and several different lengths.


Now, as it is shown above, the teeth have been stitched for the push stroke, but we have just had produced for Claw-Hama (a member here) a Cabinet Makers rasp with reversed teeth so that he can use it on the pull stroke, like a Japanese Saw. This might be a world first, I don't know, but certainly Noel had never heard of it. He said "why not, what else should I expect from people who are upside down!"





So if you could supply the following info for me I can see what might fit:


Your opinion of the suitability of the curve shown (can be altered)
Flat both sides or half round
Profile width and height (or the radius of the Half Round, and thickness)
Length of stitched area required

Cheers
Brett

bazzar
20th June 2013, 06:26 PM
dear Sirs,

I'm interested in recorder (flute) making and for this I would need a curved tool like the one in the attached pictures. It's a traditional hand-tool, like a scraper used to scrape the recorder winday. It looks like a broach (it's not a file, it has teeth), it cuts by pulling and not by pushing and it has a curved section. Maybe you have an idea how to make this, or even some of you could make it ...thank you very much for any help you could give me. Greetings from Italy

Lorenzo
Hi,how did you get on with the flute tools?. Do you happen to know of anybody that makes irish flutes or irish(uillean )bagpipes? cheers bazzar