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Finger Dicer
9th May 2005, 08:07 PM
Purely by chance I was trawling the woodwork/hobbies section at Webshots and stumbled upon this little piece of genius.

If this is a jig from one of our members please take a bow as it will be one of the next jigs I make. :)

Tenon jig (http://community.webshots.com/album/331313572MfNGbL)

Rocker
9th May 2005, 09:55 PM
Finger Dicer,

That tenoning jig does not appear to be micro-adjustable. Mine is. See http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=6993

If you want the plans for it PM me with your e-mail address.

Rocker

noodle_snacks
9th May 2005, 10:35 PM
From my personal experiance i have found that unless you need to make a lot of different tenons, want repeatability or not so many test cuts then a micro-adjustable jig doesn't have a huge benefit. Of course the dial guage adds alot of advantages but one must ask if they are worth the additional contruction time etc. Though i am sure rocker's jig is excellent and say go for it if you want

BuffaloJohn
10th May 2005, 06:48 AM
I built a similar table saw tenon jig based on a jointech design:
http://www.jointech.com/pdf/pdf_vertical-miter.pdf

My modifications included the concept of mounting it in my table saw crosscut sled. I highly recommend this approach, it seems to give the tenon jig greater stability and accuracy.

The ability to angle the cut is very handy.

Pictures of my tenon and crosscut sled can be found here:
http://www.dotphoto.com/Go.asp?l=johnwnixon&P=&AID=2294804&T=1

Tonz
10th May 2005, 01:32 PM
If this is a jig from one of our members please take a bow as it will be one of the next jigs I make. :)

Tenon jig (http://community.webshots.com/album/331313572MfNGbL)
I think you'll find this was probably made from the tenon jig plan on plansnow.com I downlaoded these plans at one stage but as I'm still in the process of purchasing a table saw having sold my Triton gear I haven't got around to building it yet.

http://www.plansnow.com/tenon.html

derekcohen
10th May 2005, 05:31 PM
a micro-adjustable jig doesn't have a huge benefit

I use the same micro-adjustable tenon jig that Norm has. It was going on special at the time at Carba-tec and I tought "why not". Having used it for several months now I can say that it does not do a lot more for me than my own version. See http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=5885

My old one adjusted with the tablesaw fence, and even there the adjustments were not critical. More of my stock is thicknessed by hand, you see, and I am better off leaving a mm each side for leeway, and trimming it to size with a #140 or shoulder plane. I think that I would probably do this even if I used a power thicknesser.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Rocker
10th May 2005, 06:15 PM
Derek,

You have a vast and varied collection of planes for which you need to find a raison d'être, so you don't use a thicknesser, and you take pleasure from using a shoulder plane. But if you tend towards the light side, as I do, you want to cut a tenon as accurately and as quickly as possible, without tidying it up with planes. I agree that a micro-adjustable tenoning jig is not particularly helpful, unless it is equipped with a dial gauge to measure the actual adjustment.

If the jig is micro-adjustable, and you can accurately measure the adjustment with a dial gauge, and if you have a thicknesser that can guarantee that a trial offcut is precisely the same thickness as your workpiece, you only need to make a single trial cut to get the necessary measurement to make the final adjustment to cut your tenon precisely with a dado set, and you not need to do any further touching up with shoulder planes. Whether the Carbatec tenoning jig could achieve this sort of precision, if it were equipped with a dial gauge, I don't know. But I do know that you can achieve it with my shop-made tenoning jig with a dial gauge.

Rocker

derekcohen
11th May 2005, 02:43 AM
Rocker

My comment about a tenon jig not needing to be micro-adjustable was in relation to my needs. I'm sure that yours is the final word in accuracy - just that this would not help me since, although I can do a good job with thicknessing by hand, there are always irregularities that defeat the purpose of having a micro-accurate tenon.

Not that I wouldn't mind having a thickness-planer - really! It is just that I could not live with the noise, dust ... did I mention noise. I rarely even use my router table these days, and I think mine is SOTA. I sort of enjoy the peace and quiet. Of course this does have its down side, such as slightly irregular boards (not too bad, tho'), and this then requires more attention to hand-made joints.

Regards from Perth

Derek

vsquizz
11th May 2005, 08:56 AM
Buffalo John, Welcome and thanks for the photos. Excellent thread guys.


Cheers