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th62
3rd July 2013, 12:50 PM
I've been meaning to make a kneeling chair and a cupboard for power tools for a while. Bought the steel and wood on Monday and made the frame, cut the wood and painted everything Tuesday and stuck it all together today. Now my power tools have a nice comfy place to sit, not to mention me. Kneeling chairs are really good in the workshop, very comfy while allowing free movement. Next on the the drawing board - a matching lathe stand I think.

markaus
3rd July 2013, 01:04 PM
nice job on the chair and shelf. I particularly like the old 'school' look of the shelf

nearnexus
3rd July 2013, 01:49 PM
nice job on the chair and shelf. I particularly like the old 'school' look of the shelf

Nice job. Metalwork looks good.

I wouldn't have put a lip on the front of the shelves though.

P in the A having to lift the powertool up at half arms length to get it over the edge.

Better to be able to just slide them in and out.

The lip really doesn't serve a purpose - the power tools are unlikely to fall out.

Not wanting to be a kill joy, but them's my thoughts on shelving.

Rob

Steamwhisperer
3rd July 2013, 03:18 PM
The lip really doesn't serve a purpose - the power tools are unlikely to fall out.



Rob

Nope. I love the lip Rob. I have a tendency to pull every other power tool out with the one I want. At least the lip affords some resistance. I guess I am just not as careful as I should be sometimes.
Great job on the shelves and seat.

Phil

ps big admiration for blokes that can work in both metal and wood

th62
3rd July 2013, 04:39 PM
Thanks gents. The lips there for two reasons: the ply is only 10mm thick (freebie from a dumpster), the lip is to stop it bending under the weight and while they look like shelves, they're actually draws, they pull out to allow easier access to the tools. The old school look comes from using shellac, very orange and very cheap: 1kg shellac and 4 litres of metho @ $50 versus 4 litres of varnish @ $120+. And thank goodness for hammertone paint, covers a multitude of sins!

Abratool
3rd July 2013, 05:22 PM
Thanks gents. The lips there for two reasons: the ply is only 10mm thick (freebie from a dumpster), the lip is to stop it bending under the weight and while they look like shelves, they're actually draws, they pull out to allow easier access to the tools. The old school look comes from using shellac, very orange and very cheap: 1kg shellac and 4 litres of metho @ $50 versus 4 litres of varnish @ $120+. And thank goodness for hammertone paint, covers a multitude of sins!
Great stuff, Shellac. I use it for all sorts of woodwork.
Its quick & leaves a silky finish when followed by wax & looks better than plastic finishes.
regards
Bruce
ps Always used Orange Shellac, but got hold of some "Button Shellac" while in England recently. Only ever read about Button Shellac in old woodworking books.

j.ashburn
3rd July 2013, 05:25 PM
Thanks gents. The lips there for two reasons: the ply is only 10mm thick (freebie from a dumpster), the lip is to stop it bending under the weight and while they look like shelves, they're actually draws, they pull out to allow easier access to the tools. The old school look comes from using shellac, very orange and very cheap: 1kg shellac and 4 litres of metho @ $50 versus 4 litres of varnish @ $120+. And thank goodness for hammertone paint, covers a multitude of sins!
Hammertone paint for shelves and 6x4 trailers never machine tools:) John

jack620
3rd July 2013, 05:42 PM
1kg shellac and 4 litres of metho @ $50 versus 4 litres of varnish @ $120+.

Crikey, what sort of varnish are we talking?

nearnexus
3rd July 2013, 05:52 PM
they're actually draws, they pull out to allow easier access to the tools.

That seems like a good idea. Are they on roller slides or something ?

I hope you didn't think I was being negative on this. I recon you've done a great job. Just me being me :)

Rob

Steamwhisperer
3rd July 2013, 06:53 PM
I hope you didn't think I was being negative on this. I recon you've done a great job. Just me being me :)

Rob

Hi Rob,
I just read my post again and I did sound a bit short. Sorry about that.
I'm going to blame the flue, I'm couch-ridden at the moment and more crazy than normal. And yes, I know that's hard to believe

Phil

nearnexus
3rd July 2013, 06:59 PM
Hi Rob,
I just read my post again and I did sound a bit short. Sorry about that.
I'm going to blame the flue, I'm couch-ridden at the moment and more crazy than normal. And yes, I know that's hard to believe

Phil

Hi Phil,

I actually didn't pick up any short vibes from your post.

I just tendered my view on shelving and hoped no one would take it the wrong way.

The reason I like slide on (lipless shelves) is because I have a dicky shoulder form an m/cycle crash years ago and I find it an effort to lift heavy stuff like circular saws when I can just slide them off the shelf.

Rob

Greg Q
3rd July 2013, 07:03 PM
Hi Rob,
I just read my post again and I did sound a bit short. Sorry about that.
I'm going to blame the flue, I'm couch-ridden at the moment and more crazy than normal. And yes, I know that's hard to believe

Phil

Man Flu? Dude! Lie down, right now! What were you thinking leaning up to reply to a post? You are on the edge of dire consequences without undo exertion like that. Seriously, I am worried. When I get man flu I have a helicopter on standby in the back garden, and a crack team of specialists on a short leash. You can't be too careful about your health in the face of such a vicious pathogen. That goes for all of you. The man cold is nothing to sneeze at, either.

GQ, on my way to light a candle at the chapel of the Sisters of Perpetual Underappreciation

Greg Q
3rd July 2013, 07:06 PM
BTW, nice shelves and stool. I like a blend of metal and wood...your shelf is handsome and useful...what more could you ask?

GQ

BTW...while I don't have to, I keep a hide glue pot handy, and a bottle of shellac. They are my preferred adhesive and finish. Even my 2001 model daughter sees the merit in both products compared to crass mass-market stuff.

RayG
3rd July 2013, 07:12 PM
GQ, on my way to light a candle at the chapel of the Sisters of Perpetual Underestimation.

While you are there light one for me at the shrine of Saint Franz Singer patron saint and high priest of breathtaking prices...

Hi th62,
Nice set of shelves, a matching lathe stand would be a good companion, I like the shellac, it's my favourite finish for pretty much anything timber. You can keep the chair though, I prefer a swivel chair..

Regards
Ray

nearnexus
3rd July 2013, 07:19 PM
While you are there light one for me at the shrine of Saint Franz Singer patron saint and high priest of breathtaking prices...

You can keep the chair though, I prefer a swivel chair..

Regards
Ray

I'm not that old that I need a chair.

Rob

Greg Q
3rd July 2013, 07:23 PM
While you are there light one for me at the shrine of Saint Franz Singer patron saint and high priest of breathtaking prices...

Hi th62,
Nice set of shelves, a matching lathe stand would be a good companion, I like the shellac, it's my favourite finish for pretty much anything timber. You can keep the chair though, I prefer a swivel chair..

Regards
Ray

Herr Franz goes unheralded, and unprayed-for in my daily devotions. He is though the keeper of the flame and as such gets grudging forelock-tugging from me. Both of my machines are better for his spares, but both would be better still if not for his prices. Maybe in Euroland they might seem more reasonable?

I have some clear button-lac here, and some rock maple which will go well on the very few small pieces that make the move to QLD soon. Since I have dived into the Swiss machine rabbit hole I am amazed at the many permutations of silver and charcoal hammertone paint used to compliment the Resada Green landscape of toolroom machines.

GQ, your local source for Aciera and Deckel toolroom milling machines and accessories. Well, not really, but I do have some machines and do-dads that are for sale.

Greg Q
3rd July 2013, 07:27 PM
...just wait. It'll find you, this needing a chair caper. I don't need a chair either, but my workshop is in a jumping castle. I do need a bigger compressor though.

GQ, taking the since 1954

rodweb
3rd July 2013, 07:31 PM
Looks great. You might get some ideas from your lathe stand from the one I have just finished. I know its not on this forum but save repeating myself it is well documented here.

Rod's Lathe stand project (http://madmodder.net/index.php/topic,8628.0.html)

if you have any questions ask away.

th62
3rd July 2013, 08:05 PM
What is 'hide glue'?
I don't need a chair either; unfortunately, my back neck and hips do though. Was thinking of putting castors on it, that way I can flash around the workshop, spinning around and around yelling 'where is that #^(#!#$ spanner'.

Ueee
3rd July 2013, 08:51 PM
Hide glue or animal glue, literally glue made from boiled down animal parts, the hide and hooves i think? You buy it as granules and heat it in a pot to melt it, then use just like pva.....Animal glue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_glue)

Shelves look good, as does the chair. I have a friend who does a lot of his work sitting down, he makes armor.

Cheers,
Ew

morrisman
3rd July 2013, 10:03 PM
Hide glue or animal glue, literally glue made from boiled down animal parts, the hide and hooves i think? You buy it as granules and heat it in a pot to melt it, then use just like pva.....Animal glue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_glue)

Shelves look good, as does the chair. I have a friend who does a lot of his work sitting down, he makes armor.

Cheers,
Ew

Yes looks the goods that power tool chest does

I think neats foot oil ( apparently a good lube for metal lathe turning ) is another product made from cows feet ... it's weird what they can get out of a cow isn't it - apart from milk and cheese and cream , beef and tripe and the hide .....Mike

nearnexus
3rd July 2013, 10:49 PM
Yes looks the goods that power tool chest does

I think neats foot oil ( apparently a good lube for metal lathe turning ) is another product made from cows feet ... it's weird what they can get out of a cow isn't it - apart from milk and cheese and cream , beef and tripe and the hide .....Mike

And lets not forget good old aeroplane jelly - yep gelatin comes from cows hooves and horns and other ancillary bits if my memory serves me correct.

So that wobbly stuff for desert was once part of a cow.

Rob

morrisman
3rd July 2013, 11:19 PM
And lets not forget good old aeroplane jelly - yep gelatin comes from cows hooves and horns and other ancillary bits if my memory serves me correct.

So that wobbly stuff for desert was once part of a cow.

Rob

Gelatin is made from sea weed, they harvest it out in the Bass strait islands ..they drag it up onto the beaches with a tractor

I'm not being a no-all , I remember seeing it on TV one time .

Mike

nearnexus
3rd July 2013, 11:41 PM
Gelatin is made from sea weed, they harvest it out in the Bass strait islands ..they drag it up onto the beaches with a tractor

I'm not being a no-all , I remember seeing it on TV one time .

Mike

I was always told as a kid it was from melted down cows hooves and horns, but I checked to see what the web said about it.

Gelatin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin)

Wiki isn't always right, but it seems to back up what I was alway led to believe.

Rob

welder
3rd July 2013, 11:50 PM
I thought gelatin came from a cows hoofs and the stuff they make from sea weed is a food additive called Carrageenan which is used as a gelling agent.

Oldneweng
6th July 2013, 11:18 PM
Great stuff, Shellac. I use it for all sorts of woodwork.
Its quick & leaves a silky finish when followed by wax & looks better than plastic finishes.
regards
Bruce
ps Always used Orange Shellac, but got hold of some "Button Shellac" while in England recently. Only ever read about Button Shellac in old woodworking books.

You could use Eucalypt Shellac. Just get some gum oozzing out of a Eucalypt tree and mix with meths. Some lovely red colours to be found.

Dean