New dt Backsaw.

[planemaker]

Hi. Work has commenced on a new dt saw. I have already made some subtle changes to how the handle will finally look to that shown on the drawing, but that's to be expected being its first time round. As you can see the bottom of the grip has a unique shape to it. This helps to achieve a good depth of blade clearance below the handle line. My across the palm measurement is 4 inches, and for me the length to the inside grip of the handle feels good. Will this backsaw end up looking any good. Time will tell.

Stewie.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/open%20handle%20design/DSC_0085_zps5ae0b104.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/open%20handle%20design/DSC_0085_zps5ae0b104.jpg.html)

[planemaker]

As you can see the dt is starting to take shape. Still need to add a another coat of shellac to the handle. Final sanding with 1200 grit. Shape the the brass back, & final sharpening the saw teeth. 16 tpi rip tooth. The handle wood is Tas. Fiddleback Blackwood. Should come up a treat. I will make a final judgement on whether the handle design is good enough to repeat after everything is finished. Certainly feels very nice in he hand. Here's how it looks so far.

Stewie;

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/open%20handle%20design/DSC_0088_zps24da6745.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/open%20handle%20design/DSC_0088_zps24da6745.jpg.html)

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[Simplicity]

That's looking great Stewie
Love the choice of wood it's come up looking fantastic
And I think the design around the bottom of the handle works too.
Was there any particular reason for the new design

[Claw Hama]

That looks very sweet Stewie, lovely design. Hope that Blackwood neck holds up for you but I guess you have picked a
nice dense bit of timber. You've worked the feature in the wood beautifully with the handle shape. :2tsup:

[Sawdust Maker]

Spectacular handle - lovely bit of wood

looks like a pretty little saw :2tsup:

[planemaker]

That looks very sweet Stewie, lovely design. Hope that Blackwood neck holds up for you but I guess you have picked a
nice dense bit of timber. You've worked the feature in the wood beautifully with the handle shape. :2tsup:

Hi Claw. Hopefully I have done everything right. Tight grained timber, low moisture level, orientated the grain pattern correctly through the neck of the handle. It feels rock solid, so it will be left up to time to prove me right or wrong. :D

Stewie;

[planemaker]

Spectacular handle - lovely bit of wood

looks like a pretty little saw :2tsup:

Thanks Nick. A lovely piece of timber for the handle can make ownership of such a saw much more pleasurable.

Stewie;

[Claw Hama]

:D Sounds perfect Stewie, when can you pop it in the mail for me? If I had some money I'd make you an offer but the Christmas thing has
drained the funds :U

[planemaker]

That's looking great Stewie
Love the choice of wood it's come up looking fantastic
And I think the design around the bottom of the handle works too.
Was there any particular reason for the new design

Hi Matt. I was sent some 2 inch depth saw plate from Ron Bontz a fair while ago. Finally got round to using one of them. The handle design was a bit of a challenge. I wanted a low hang handle for better feel through the stroke, but have the handle shaped so it still left adequate saw plate clearance below the handle line for it to be used on a bench hook if needed. Most dts you come across with small depth of plate go the other way and have a higher set handle to maintain that clearance to the tooth line.

Stewie;

[Simplicity]

Hi Stewie
That makes perfect sense with regard to the hang angle.
Also I like the way you have brought the saw plate up to meet the handle at the rear of the plate.
I think that little detail is a real winner
It's a lot better flowing that way.


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[Ron Bontz]

Hey Stewie.
I like what you did to the bottom of the tote. Different and flows well. Take care.

[planemaker]

Hey Stewie.
I like what you did to the bottom of the tote. Different and flows well. Take care.

Hi Ron. Good to hear you like the look of the bottom tote. Its way off the traditional look but it works well to give the saw the clearance of playable saw plate below the handle line . I still get chuffed taking a conceptual drawing through to its final 3d look. Your no different yourself with the work you do with your saw plate shaping. It was the impetus for me to shape the toe end of the blade to flow intro the bottom handle shaping. Your a bit of a trend setter Ron.

Stewie;

[RayG]

Hi Stewie,

Looks good, I like longer saws, that's just a personal preference, and a 12" x 2" blade would allow longer strokes through the cut.

As others have said the handle shape is spot on..

Ray

[planemaker]

Hi Stewie,

Looks good, I like longer saws, that's just a personal preference, and a 12" x 2" blade would allow longer strokes through the cut.

As others have said the handle shape is spot on..

Ray

Thanks Ray. It will be handy having an open handle option available. Most of my previous backsaws have all been closed handles.

Stewie;

[rob streeper]

I'd really like to have some of that wood. Anybody fancy trading planks for folded sawbacks?

[planemaker]

Still need to add a another coat of shellac to the handle. Final sanding with 1200 grit. Shape the the brass back, & final sharpening the saw teeth. 16 tpi rip tooth.

Latest update.

Final sanding of the handle has been done as well as final buff with paste wax.

Brass back has been shaped. Just needs brasso application to finish off.

Saw teeth have had a final sharpen & set has been applied.

Will post photo's of completed backsaw tomorrow.

Stewie;:rolleyes:

[planemaker]

I'd really like to have some of that wood. Anybody fancy trading planks for folded sawbacks?

What are your thoughts on the handle design Rob.

Stewie;

[rob streeper]

Beautiful execution - looks as though it will help support the relatively long back and plate with the slightly increasing breadth from index to least finger. I assume this is intended for the right hand given the shadow lines on the left of the saw?
On the buffing, I don't know if you have 3M products available but I've used their Perfect-It products with success on harder species.

[planemaker]

Yes. Right handed. The 3M products are okay. But I find going through the sand paper grits up to 1200 is the way to go then use the 3M softer cuts, especially with rubbing back the shellac finish. I will apply double the amount of shellac coats to the end grain to fill in the pores, and get that reflective finish. Whereas the main faces are easier to manage as you can be flatten them over a glass plate usually no higher than 800 grit. From then on its hand sanding. That way the sharpness between to the 2 profiles is better maintained.

Stewie;

[planemaker]

Hi all. Here are the photo's of the finished dt saw.

Stewie;

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/open%20handle%20design/DSC_0094_zps9a3d11c1.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/open%20handle%20design/DSC_0094_zps9a3d11c1.jpg.html)

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/open%20handle%20design/DSC_0092_zps6b25f9cb.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/open%20handle%20design/DSC_0092_zps6b25f9cb.jpg.html)

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/open%20handle%20design/DSC_0091_zpsce090497.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/open%20handle%20design/DSC_0091_zpsce090497.jpg.html)

[DSEL74]

Spine came up pretty magic Stewie! :2tsup:

[RayG]

Hi Stewie,

Very nice, what's it like to use with the extra length? Beautiful job, very stylish! :2tsup:

Ray

[planemaker]

Hi Stewie,

Very nice, what's it like to use with the extra length? Beautiful job, very stylish! :2tsup:

Ray

Thanks Ray. The weight of the saw forward of the handle is surprisingly well balanced. The extra length in the saw plate works in well with a comfortable stroke length. Due to the fine kerf left by the high tpi teeth this saw would suit a wide selection of carcass joints inside 40mm of depth, be it on rip or crosscut grain. It would be up to others to make that judgement but I personally feel this aussie built dt would be a good match in performance to any equivalent made by an outside ozz saw maker.

Stewie;

[rob streeper]

Stewie,

Really, really nice work. What does it weigh?

Thanks,
Rob

[planemaker]

Stewie,

Really, really nice work. What does it weigh?

Thanks,
Rob

Will have to check that tomorrow Rob and get back to you with a figure. Thanks for the nice comments on the saw. Stewie.

[rob streeper]

I really like the sword style bevel to the back, milled? Are those initials or accent marks on the right side of the back?

[planemaker]

I really like the sword style bevel to the back, milled? Are those initials or accent marks on the right side of the back?

The bevels are all done by hand filing Rob. Its a makers mark stamped on the back. Nothing too fancy. T. T. C.

[Simplicity]

Nice work there Stewie another saw of yours for me to aspire to.
I really like the back as you know I can't leave mine alone.
You have done a great job.
Some more pics would be good if you could?



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[rob streeper]

Stewie,

You are trule an artist with the file. The fineness of your file work calls to mind an illustration from an old Soviet training film demonstrating filing technique - you must either have a great natural talent or you had at some point a really great teacher.
For your back beveling which type of file do you prefer? I assume you removed the plate from the back prior to the beveling work. I like the Nicholson Magicut or the milled tooth Superior type. I have a lead/aluminum type that works reasonably well.
I think I will try your beveling technique on one of the folded backs I make as a method of modulating blade clamping pressure.

Rob

[Sawdust Maker]

very spiffy :2tsup:

[planemaker]

Thanks Nick. No special training Rob.

Stewie;

[planemaker]

Stewie,

Really, really nice work. What does it weigh?

Thanks,
Rob

Hi Rob. Checked the weight. 375 grams.

[rob streeper]

Hi Rob. Checked the weight. 375 grams.

Thanks Stewie, What percentage of the back material do you think you removed in profiling?

[planemaker]

Thanks Stewie, What percentage of the back material do you think you removed in profiling?

Close to 20%. Rob