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curiosity22

25th January 2014, 07:28 PM

Hey G'day people,

Small issue with my inverter, well more operator error than anything..

My VFD works perfectly except for decreasing speed of my spindle.

I can increase speed using the up arrow using shift play the number and you can hear the spindle powering up.

Trying to decrease the speed though is another issue, I can decrease the numbers but the speed of the spindle remains constant. I have to power off and power on for it to pick up the numbers I have set.

Would anyone please be able to tell me which PD function controls the decrease in speed..

I've been at this for days now and I give up....

Cheers

Steve

Stustoys

25th January 2014, 08:48 PM

curiosity22

25th January 2014, 10:43 PM

Hi Steve,

Well I'm not a lot of help. I've just been out to the shed and tried the VSD on my drill. While the up and down arrows work just fine above 50Hz, as soon as I go to 49Hz the drill just slows to a stop and wont restart until the Hz is increased to 50 again.

What are your PD's up to PD007?

Stuart

Hey G'day,

Thank you for replying at least..

Your lucky both your up and down are working mine is just one way atm..

Ok my pd000/01/02 are 0 - pd003 is 400 pd004 is 400 - pD005 is 400 then pd006 is 2.5 and pd007 is .50

I have a water cooled spindle 5w 400hz 24000 rpm don't know if its 2 or 4 poll - every thing is working perfectly my speed pot works fine - worked that out, stop button which stopped working now functions again I discovered that pd026 had to be set to 1.

pd072 and 073 control the amount of control you have with the speed pot.

I looked at pd078 which says up/down speed but that seems not to do much except change the increment at which you can adjust speed default was.01 Ive set it to .1.

So I am at a total loss why I can only increase speed one way and not the tuther..

Cheers and avagreat day.

Steve

RayG

26th January 2014, 12:35 AM

Sounds like a strange problem, the only thing I can think of is that perhaps the decelleration time has been set to some very large number..

Ray

BobL

26th January 2014, 01:26 AM

curiosity22

26th January 2014, 07:50 AM

If you have been pushing buttons left, right and centre without the manual it could be anything.
Before doing anything else I would get a hold of the manual - PM me if you need an electronic copy.
I would then perform a factory reset as per the manual and carefully step through the commissioning sequence as per the manual before starting the motor.
The most important one is the base frequency (PD4) since some units are set for 400Hz and as soon as you switch them to FWD (or REV) the VFD may try and drive the motor to that frequency
I failed to do this on one of my instals - fortunately the VFD cut out before any damage took place but you cannot count on this.

Hey G'day Bob,

I've done a factory reset a number of times, I have the manual as well, I make side note on the manual as to what does what, the English translation is pitiful at best.

Problems occurred when I did my first factory reset.. In my case pd013 : 1

pd004 is set to 400 as per motor specs, the vfd and spindle power up to that frequency over a number of seconds so that's good.

Well I guess Im going to have to go through them one by one until I hit the magic spot - the manual itself gives no clues unfortunately..

Cheers,

Steve

BobL

26th January 2014, 09:48 AM

My manual says a factory reset (PB13) should be 8, not 1.

RayG

26th January 2014, 10:57 AM

What do you have the minimum frequency set to? PD 7, and PD 11

Ray

curiosity22

26th January 2014, 11:05 AM

What do you have the minimum frequency set to?

Ray

if your talking about pd007 its set to .50..

Its a strange problem, if I set pd002 to 1 and use the pot for speed control even that is a one way trip I can increase speed but not decrease it.

Ive seen a few people on the forums regarding pd013 reset is 08... and some are 01... it dosent seem to be consistent depending on what version vfd you have..

again thank you very much for going to so much trouble..

this really is infuriating./.. o-O...

Regards,

Steve

curiosity22

26th January 2014, 11:09 AM

pd011 is set to 0 as per factory default..

Regards.. Steve

Stustoys

26th January 2014, 11:43 AM

curiosity22

26th January 2014, 12:10 PM

One thing. Are you assuming the settings are what the manual says when you restore defaults? Don't, there is a fair chance the manual and the VSD do match up. At least mine dont.

What are your settings PD0070-PD0077?
(these really shouldnt effect the button operation, they are for the speed pot....... as I understand it.... but who really knows with these manuals lol)

Stuart

p.s. You say its set to start at 400Hz but you can speed it up? thats makes no sense to me.

Hey Stuart G'day,

Thanks for biting into this one as well,

to answer your last question first, I set it to 400 to see if we can go backwards from that using the down arrow doesn't work. If I set it to 100 I can use the up arrow works fine spindle winds up to whatever. As you increase the numbers the spindle immediately responds but if you again try to reduce the numbers spindle stays at last set speed.

PD0770 to 077, 70 = 0 71 = 20 72=400 74/75 default value 0 76 default 0 not allowable and 77=0 not memorized.

Speaking of the pot same thing when I enable the pot I can only go one way speed up and not decrease speed.

As for the manual lol I have to laugh trying to understand it and to answer your question no I dont assume whats in the manual matches the vfd... In my case there were a number of inconsistency's one which was really annoying was when set to factory default the stop button wouldn't work on the panel until I fell over PD026 DEFAULT is 0 when it should be 1.. then the stop button cut power to spindle shutting it down.

Again thank you for taking the time to read the post.

Cheers,

Steve

RayG

26th January 2014, 12:22 PM

Is it possible the push button itself is faulty?

Ray

Stustoys

26th January 2014, 12:57 PM

Just so I've got it clear. If you start at say 100Hz then speed up to 200Hz with the pot, you cant go back down to 100Hz?

Stuart

curiosity22

26th January 2014, 12:57 PM

Is it possible the push button itself is faulty?

Ray

Hey Ray g'day,

Thank you for your post...

Button is working fine, if it wasn't the numbers wouldn't decrease on the display...

So it has to be a command not being sent to the spindle itself to actually decrease the speed..

eg speed 400, I can decrease to 100.. spindle still at max revs... stop vfd restart vfd and on start spindle fires up at 100 - use the up arrow increase speed and spindle responds immediately..

Cheers,

Steve

curiosity22

26th January 2014, 03:17 PM

Just so I've got it clear. If you start at say 100Hz then speed up to 200Hz with the pot, you cant go back down to 100Hz?

Stuart

Stuart G'day

You are correct ..

cant go back down using pot or if the pot is switched off with the down arrow..

I just can't work out which pd function affects this...

Which as you might imagine is totally annoying..

Regards,

Steve

RayG

26th January 2014, 04:00 PM

Ok, this is getting strange, what are the decelleration times set to, PD15, PD17, PD19, PD21

Ray

curiosity22

26th January 2014, 07:45 PM

Ok, this is getting strange, what are the decelleration times set to, PD15, PD17, PD19, PD21

Ray

Hey Ray G'day,

Thank you for your post,

Strange indeed...

Ok

PD15, PD17, PD19, PD21 are at default no value
PD14, PD16, PD18, PD20 are at default also no value 0

Cheers and ty,

Steve

Stustoys

26th January 2014, 07:53 PM

Thats strange. Min setting on mine is 0.1.

Try setting them all to 5.

Stuart

curiosity22

26th January 2014, 08:20 PM

Stuart G'day,

Ok set all to 5, same difference.. going up good comming down not so good..

Steve

Stustoys

26th January 2014, 10:34 PM

curiosity22

26th January 2014, 11:28 PM

I'm starting to wonder if your VSD is fried.
If you'd like to make a list of all your PD settings I can compare them to the settings on mine, but I doubt we are going to find a magic number. I've been wrong before though.

Stuart

Stuart G'day,

Ok sounds like a plan, I'll do that first thing in the morning.. almost midnight..

VSD fried who knows, but you made me go and smell it and it doesn't smell like its blown a gasket.

I'm sure it has to be something so dam simple..

Greatly appreciate your assist.

Cheers.

Steve

curiosity22

27th January 2014, 09:56 AM

Stuart G'day,

As promised my settings.. I used a spreadsheet that I downloaded from this forum I believe and just filled out my numbers... cheers and again thank you for going to the trouble.

Steve

Code
Function
Set Range & Function Explanation
Factory Setting

PD000
Parameter Lock
0：Invalid 1：Valid
0

PD001
Source of Run Commands
0：Operator 1：External terminal
0

2：Communication port

PD002
Source of Operating Frequency
0：Operator 1：External terminal
0

2：Communication port

PD003
Main Frequency
0.00~400.00 Hz
400

PD004
Base Frequency
0.01~400.00 Hz
400

PD005
Max Operating Frequency
50.00~400.00 Hz
400

PD006
Intermediate Frequency
0.01~400.00 Hz
2.5

PD007
Min. Frequency
0.01~20.00 Hz
0.2

PD008
Max. Voltage
0.1V—*
220

PD009
Intermediate Voltage
0.1V—*
15

PD010
Min. Voltage
0.1~50.0V
8

PD011
Frequency Lower Limit
0.00~400.00 Hz
120

PD012
Reserved

null

PD013
Parameter Reset
00~10 08：Restore the factory setting. No other function.
0

PD014
Accel. Time 1
0.1~6500.0S
10

PD015
Decel. Time 1
0.1~6500.0S
10

PD016
Accel. Time 2
0.1~6500.0S
20

PD017
Decel. Time 2
0.1~6500.0S
20

PD018
Accel. Time 3
0.1~6500.0S
40

PD019
Decel. Time 3
0.1~6500.0S
40

PD020
Accel. Time 4
0.1~6500.0S
80

PD021
Decel. Time 4
0.1~6500.0S
80

PD022
Reserved

0

PD023
Rev. Rotation Select
0: Rev Run forbidden; 1：Rev Run Enable
0

PD024
STOP key select
0：STOP Invalid 1：STOP Valid
1

PD025
Starting Mode
0：Start from Starting Frequency
0

1：Frequency track start

PD026
Stopping Mode
0：Decelerating stop
1

1：Coasting stop

PD027
Starting Frequency
0.1~10.0 Hz
0.5

PD028
Stopping Frequency
0.1~10.0 Hz
0.5

PD031
DC Braking level
0.0~20.0%
2

PD029
DC Braking time at start
0.0~25.0S
0

PD030
DC Braking time at stop
0.0~25.0S
0

PD032
Frequency track time
0.0~20.0S
5

PD033
Current level for frequency track
0~200%
150

PD034
Voltage rise time during frequency track

0.5

PD035-PD040
Reserved

null

PD041
Carrier frequency
0~15
8

PD042
Jogging Frequency
0.00~400.00 Hz
5

PD043
S-Curve Time
0~6500S
0

*PD044
Multi-input 1(FOR)
0: Invalid; 1:Run; 2: For rotation; 3: Rev rotation; 4: Stop; 5: FOR/REV.; 6: Jog; 7: Jog For rotation; 8: Jog Rev Rotation; 9: Emergent stop; 10: Reset; 11:Reserved; 12: Overheat of heat sink or motor; 17: High speed; Middle speed; 19: Low speed; 20: Multi-speed 1; 21: Multi-speed 2; 22: Multi-speed 3; 23: Ramp select 1; 24: Ramp select 2; 25: UP function; 26: DOWN function; 27: Counter 28: Counter reset; 29: Drawing; 32: PID Start
2

*PD045
Multi-input 2(REV)
3

*PD046
Multi-input 3(RST)
4

*PD047
Multi-input 4(SPH)
7

*PD048
Multi-input 5(SPM)
19

*PD049
Multi-input 6(SPL)
20

*PD050
Multi-output 1(DRV)
0: Invalid; 1: Run; 2: Fault indication; 3: Zero Speed; 4: Braking indication; 5: Set Frequency reach; 6: Arbitrary Frequency 1 reach;
1

*PD051
Multi-output 2(UPF)

3

*PD052
Multi-output 3(Terminals of FA,FB,FC)

1

*PD053
Multi-output 4(Terminals of KA,KB)
7: Arbitrary Frequency 2 reach; 8: In Accel.; 9: In Decel.; 10: Inverter Overload alarm; 11: Motor Overload alarm; 12: Over-torque alarm; 13: Low voltage alarm; 14: Single stage end indication; 15: Process end indication; 16: Counter reach; 27: Drawing reach; 28:PID lower limit alarm; 29: PID upper limit alarm; 30: Fan act; 31: Reserved; 32: Braking resistor act
3

PD054
Multi-output 5(AM)
Output of digital frequency signals
0

PD055
AM Analog output Gain
0.0~100.0%
100

PD056
Skip Frequency 1
0.00~400.00 Hz
0

PD057
Skip Frequency 2
0.00~400.00 Hz
0

PD058
Skip Frequency 3
0.00~400.00 Hz
0

PD059
Skip Frequency Range
0.00~2.00 Hz
0.5

PD060
Uniform Frequency 1
0.00~400.00 Hz
0

PD061
Uniform Frequency 2
0.00~400.00 Hz
0

PD062
Uniform Frequency Range
0.10~10.00 Hz
0.5

PD063
Timer 1 time
0~10.0
0.1

PD064
Timer 2 time
0~100
0.01

PD065
Counting value set
00~65500
0

PD066
Intermediate Counter
0~65500
0

PD067-PD069
Reserved

PD070
Analog Input
0~10
0

PD071
Analog Filtering Constant
0~50
20

PD072

50

PD073
Bias Direction at Higher Frequency
0.00~400.00 Hz
0

PD074

0

PD075

0：Positive direction 1：Negative direction
0

PD076
Analog Negative Bias Reverse
0：Not allowable. 1：Allowable.
0

PD077
Up/Down Function
0：Not memorized 1：Memorized
0

PD078
Up/Down Speed
0：0.01HZ 1：0.1HZ
0

PD079
Reserved

0.01

PD080
PLC Operation
0：Normal run; 1: External control 4 -speed; 2:External control multi-speed; 3: Disturbance; 4: Internal control multi-speed; 5: Drawing
0

PD081
AutoPLC
0：Stop after running for one cycle; 1：Cycling run; 2：Auto stop after running for one cycle (STOP for intervention); 3: Auto Run and Cycling (STOP for intervention)
0

PD082
PLC rotation Direction
0~255 （0：For 1：Rev）
0

PD083

0~255 （0：For 1：Rev）

PD084
PLC Ramp Time
0~65535
0

PD085

0~65535

PD086
Frequency 2
0.00-400.00 Hz
15

PD087
Frequency 3
0.00-400.00 Hz
20

PD088
Frequency 4
0.00-400.00 Hz
25

PD089
Frequency 5
0.00-400.00 Hz
30

PD090
Frequency 6
0.00-400.00 Hz
35

PD091
Frequency 7
0.00-400.00 Hz
40

PD092
Frequency 8
0.00-400.00 Hz
0.5

PD093
Frequency 9
0.00-400.00 Hz
10

PD094
Frequency 10
0.00-400.00 Hz
15

PD095
Frequency 11
0.00-400.00 Hz
20

PD096
Frequency 12
0.00-400.00 Hz
25

PD097
Frequency 13
0.00-400.00 Hz
30

PD098
Frequency 14
0.00-400.00 Hz
35

PD099
Frequency 15
0.00-400.00 Hz
40

PD100
Frequency 16
0.00-400.00 Hz
45

PD101
Timer 1
0.0-6500.0S
10

PD102
Timer 2
0.0-6500.0S
10

PD103
Timer 3
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD104
Timer 4
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD105
Timer 5
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD106
Timer 6
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD107
Timer 7
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD108
Timer 8
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD109
Timer 9*
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD110
Timer 10
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD111
Timer 11
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD112
Timer 12
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD113
Timer 13
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD114
Timer 14
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD115
Timer 15
0.0-6500.0S
0

PD116
Timer 16
0.0-6500.0S
0

Code
Functions
Set Range & Function Explanation
Factory Setting

PD117
AutoPLC Memory
0~1
0

PD118
Over-voltage Stall Prevention
0：Invalid 1：Valid
1

PD119
Stall Prevention Level at Accel.

150

PD120
Stall Prevention Level at Constant Speed
0~200%
0

PD121
Stall Prevention Level at Decel.
0~200%
5

PD122

0~200%
NULL

PD123
Over-torque Detect Mode
0~3
0

PD124
Over-torque Detect Level
0~200%
0

PD125
Over-torque Detect Time
0.1~20.0S
1

PD126

0

PD127-PD129
Reserved

NULL

PD130
Number of Auxiliary Pump
0~2
0

PD131
Continuous Operating Time of Aux. Pumps
1~9000mim
60

PD132
Interlocking Time of Aux. Pumps
1~250s
5s

PD133
High Speed Running Time
1~250s
60s

PD134
Low Speed Running Time
1~250s
60s

PD135
Stopping Voltage Level
1~150%
95%

PD136
Lasting Time of Stopping Voltage Level
1~250s
30s

PD137
Wakeup Level
1~150%
80%

PD138
Sleep Frequency
0.00~400.0
0

PD139
Lasting Time of Sleep Frequency
1~250s
20s

PD140
Reserved

NULL

PD141
Rated Motor Voltage
Set according to Motor nameplate
220

Set according to Motor nameplate

PD142
Rated Motor Current
02—10
5

00—9999

PD143
Motor pole number.

2

PD144
Rated Motor Revolution

3000

PD145
Auto Torque Compensation
0.1—10.0 %
2.00%

PD146
Motor no-load current
0—99
40

PD147
Motor slip compensation
0.0—10.0
20

PD148-PD149
Reserved

PD153
Restart after Instantaneous Stop
0：Invalid 1：Frequency track
0

PD152

1

PD154
Allowable Power-Breakdown Time
0—10
0.5

PD155
Number of Abnormal Restart
0：Invalid 1：Valid
0

PD150
Auto Voltage Regulation
0~10%
1

PD151
Auto Energy Saving

0

PD156
Proportional Constant (P)
0.0~1000.00%
100%

PD157
Integral Time (I)
0.1~3600.00S
5

PD158
Differential Time (D)
0.01~10.00S
0

PD159
Target value
0.0~100.0%
0

PD160
Target value select
0: set by the operator 1：set by external terminals（0-10V）
0

PD161
PID upper limit
0~100%
100%

PD162
PID lower limit

0%

PD163
Communication Addresses
0-250
0

PD164
Communication Data Method
0-3
0

PD165

0-5
0

PD166
Voltage Rating of Inverter
Set according to the model
0

PD167

0

PD168

0

PD169

NULL

PD170
Display Items
0-5
7

PD171
Display Items Open
0-7
7

PD172

0

PD173
Rated Current of Inverter

255

PD174

Set according to the model
7

PD175
Inverter Model

0

PD176
Inverter Frequency Standard
0：50Hz 1：60Hz
0

PD177
Fault Record 1

LU

PD178
Fault Record 2
Note: —— means no fault record.
OL - 1

PD179
Fault Record 3

LU

PD180
Fault Record 4

DL

PD181
Software Version

U - 1.00

PD182
Manufacture Date
Year：Month：Week
30627

PD183
Serial No.

65535

PD184

20

PD185

0

PD186

0

PD187

NULL

NULL

NULL

Ueee

27th January 2014, 10:18 AM

curiosity22

27th January 2014, 10:50 AM

Hi,
What sort of motor is it?
Looks like you need to change your main and base frequencies 003 and 004. Also try changing 026 to 0, that way you will get deceleration when changing speeds down so you should really notice if it is working.

Ew

Hey Uee G'day,

Thank you for your post,

Ok motor is a water cooled spindle, 1.5kw 400mh - 5amp 24000 rpm its a GZD-80

if I change 026 to 0 then the stop button on the panel doesnt work... the spindle wont power down just keeps spinning 026 to 1 panel stop works as intended.

when you say change main and base frequencies 003/004 as I understand it 003 is for frequency you want the spindle to start up at 100/200/300 (whatever number) and 003 is what you are in actually fact adjust when using the up and down arrow keys on the panel - when I use the panel using the up arrow key increasing the numbers the spindle responds and speeds up - using the down arrow key only the numbers change but spindle speed doesnt..

004 should then be set at ???? 005 i would be right at assuming is the rated mh of the spindle which in my case is 400

Thank you for your input.

Steve

Stustoys

27th January 2014, 10:52 AM

I dont think changing base freq is a good idea.

of to the shed back soon

Ueee

27th January 2014, 11:27 AM

Well i've lost my book so i'm next to useless....

026 should not change how the stop button works, just how the motor slows down.

Ew

Stustoys

27th January 2014, 11:41 AM

Well I cant see anything wrong.

There are some numbers that are different of course. Long shot PD138 you have as 0, my VSD and manual say 20..........I'm not even sure what it does.

I'll type up the rest after breakfast lol

Stuart

RayG

27th January 2014, 11:59 AM

Hi Stuart, I set the sleep frequency to Daily... :)

AFAIK It's used when you have multiple pump systems.

Not seeing anything obvious in that parameter list.

Ray

Ueee

27th January 2014, 12:07 PM

Hi Steve,
Is the motor base frequency 400Hz?

I would try setting 003 to a lower setting and try it. maybe 300.

Ew

Stustoys

27th January 2014, 01:12 PM

PD003=50
PD004=50
PD005=70

PD007=20
PD008=255
PD009=13
PD010=6.5
PD011=0

PD015=10

PD023=1

PD026=0

PD028=50
PD029=0
PD030=3
PD031=20
PD041=3
PD042=5

PD142=3.4
PD143=4
PD144=1430

You dont have a number for PD083 and PD085. PD150-PD0156 are messed up in your list(but they match up with mine so I assume thats all ok).

But other that a mistake in my settings(PD007=20. it should have been PD011=20), the differences for VSD size(mine is 2.2kW), different motor specs(either my amps is low or yours is high PD142) and that my VSD is set up for braking. I cant see anything that can help you.

Is it a new VSD? might be time to try your luck with your supplier.

Stuart

curiosity22

27th January 2014, 01:40 PM

Hi Steve,
Is the motor base frequency 400Hz?

I would try setting 003 to a lower setting and try it. maybe 300.

Ew

Hey g'day Uee,

I've done that - 003 is moot point as its the function that will always vary, depending on what your doing..

Steve

curiosity22

27th January 2014, 01:49 PM

You dont have a number for PD083 and PD085. PD150-PD0156 are messed up in your list(but they match up with mine so I assume thats all ok).

Stuart

083 and 085 are both 0..

It is a new vsd - the cost of shipping back packing cheaper just to buy a new one - perhaps a different make...

Thanks for going to all that trouble Stuart, and everyone else its much appreciated.

Steve

curiosity22

27th January 2014, 01:51 PM

Well i've lost my book so i'm next to useless....

026 should not change how the stop button works, just how the motor slows down.

Ew

So I gathered but funnily enough if I put pd026 to 0 the stop button doesn't work. set to 1 its ok so go figure....

Steve

Michael G

27th January 2014, 04:52 PM

Well i've lost my book so i'm next to useless...

Is this it?

http://www.jinlantrade.com/ebay/invertermanual.pdf

Michael

Ueee

28th January 2014, 11:58 AM

Is this it?

http://www.jinlantrade.com/ebay/invertermanual.pdf

Michael

Thanks Michael,
I found it in the end, put in my metric spanner drawer of all places! It wasn't until i needed a spanner yesterday that i found it:doh:

Ew

RayG

28th January 2014, 12:35 PM

Hi Ewan,

In case you lose it again... here's another spare copy... Huanyang Library (http://www.etech.net.au/Huanyang/)

Those are the ones that Joe Hovel revised and edited, and include the error messages that are often missing from some manuals.

Ray