Does anybody know this saw?

[rob streeper]

I ran across a posting for this saw on Ebay today. It is listed as an 1870's Clemsen and Co of Boston product. Does anybody have a figure for how thick the plate is? Looks like it is in the 30-40 thousandths range.

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Cheers,
Rob

[planemaker]

Hi Rob. I very much like wonderful handle shape. Very nice indeed. The blade does look overly thick for its intended purpose. Maybe too thick to achieve a high level of performance. IMO

Stewie;

[rob streeper]

Reading further on Clemsen I see a link to the flattening technique posted by pmcgee on the thread I started discussing the hardening of saw plates. The article here http://www.wkfinetools.com/hus-saws/ClemsonBros/history/clemsonStory-01.asp refers to 'web saws'. I wonder if this is one? From the dimensions it could also be a siding saw or perhaps a table saw. Does anyone know?

[Heavansabove]

Not a table saw Rob, plate is too wide. I have a Robt Sorby table saw. Mine is 16", but they ran from 12" - 26". And has a nib! Now for thickness measures, remembering this has some usage, probably dates to around 1870 (the kangaroo in the medallion looks like a kangaroo, the earlier ones tended to look like a rat. But the name is struck, rather than etched, so not too late in 19th C).

The illustration in the Marples 1909 Catalogue shows quite clearly that the plate is narrow, Salaman suggests the plate ranges from 1 - 1.5" at toe, and 1.75 - 2.25" at heel.

Mine
toe at toothline 0.048", top 0.042" (and this is over a distance of 3/4")
heel at toothline 0.064", top 0.058"

A bit hard to measure, so these are close. Quite tapered.

Your example could be a grafting saw.

Cheers
Peter

[rob streeper]

Since I just completed a large number of backs I am thinking that this design could be used for the production of a small half back.

Here is another handle design I find interesting from Jim Bode tools. http://www.jimbodetools.com/Rare-and-Fine-DILWORTH-BRANSON-CO-Ten-Inch-Triple-Cove-Back-Saw-p35939.html

I would post a picture but Jim has a copyright notice - must respect that.

Cheers,
Rob

[pmcgee]

Since I just completed a large number of backs I am thinking that this design could be used for the production of a small half back.

Here is another handle design I find interesting from Jim Bode tools. http://www.jimbodetools.com/Rare-and-Fine-DILWORTH-BRANSON-CO-Ten-Inch-Triple-Cove-Back-Saw-p35939.html

I would post a picture but Jim has a copyright notice - must respect that.

Cheers,
Rob
As far as I know, pasting in an image by URL is essentially no different to looking at the page in a browser.
(Plus surely it is advertising his product)
But realistically it should pop up with a health warning before the picture OR the price is seen. :D

So .. "Don't look, Ethel. Don't look." "It was toooo late. She'd already got a free shot."

http://www.jimbodetools.com/images/products/230295.jpg

[planemaker]

Since I just completed a large number of backs I am thinking that this design could be used for the production of a small half back.

Here is another handle design I find interesting from Jim Bode tools. http://www.jimbodetools.com/Rare-and-Fine-DILWORTH-BRANSON-CO-Ten-Inch-Triple-Cove-Back-Saw-p35939.html

I would post a picture but Jim has a copyright notice - must respect that.

Cheers,
Rob

Hi Rob. You may enjoy reading this post entry. http://www.forums.woodnet.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=6651355&page=5&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=4&vc=1

Stewie;

[rob streeper]

But realistically it should pop up with a health warning before the picture OR the price is seen. :D





I agree. I can understand a few hundred dollars for a handmade saw, it takes a lot of time and effort to produce a good one, and I understand the value of antiques but I am somewhat shocked - this is just a neat looking old saw.

[rob streeper]

Hi Rob. You may enjoy reading this post entry. http://www.forums.woodnet.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=6651355&page=5&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=4&vc=1

Stewie;

So maybe in 150 years our saws will be highly sought after and expensive too? Too bad the the most valuable artists are the dead ones.