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Wok
20th March 2014, 11:34 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm on my way to finishing my first ever cabinet but I've run into a snag.

As you can see from the pic, I've hung the doors but when open they protrude slightly into the cabinet space. This will stop the drawer I've made for the bottom shelf there from opening.

The only idea I've got is to inset the cabinet side hinges so that the door is pulled more towards the outside of the cabinet. Does anyone else have any experience with this kind of thing?

many thanks

Warwick
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silentC
20th March 2014, 11:48 AM
You can get zero-clearance hinges. They will open with the door outside the line of the internal cabinet ends. Might be a bit hard to find, I would probably try a kitchen maker.

Wok
20th March 2014, 12:02 PM
Thanks SilentC, I'll give it a go. Might try eBay or similar, don't seem to have a very good range of cabinet fittings in Canberra,

silentC
20th March 2014, 12:18 PM
Are your doors overlay or inset? I don't think they make them for inset doors, but you could try Blum.

http://woodworking.retailersdiscount.com/hardware/hinges/cabinet-hinges-by-application/frameless-overlay-hinges/blum-165-zero-clearance.html

Wok
20th March 2014, 12:22 PM
Are your doors overlay or inset? I don't think they make them for inset doors, but you could try Blum.

http://woodworking.retailersdiscount.com/hardware/hinges/cabinet-hinges-by-application/frameless-overlay-hinges/blum-165-zero-clearance.html

They look like they'd do the trick. Pretty sure my setup is overlay. This'll be the third set of hinges for this door, but it's all about the learning!

Thanks heaps

silentC
20th March 2014, 12:32 PM
If the doors sit outside the cabinet and the edges of the door are flush with the outer face of the cabinet sides, it's called full-overlay. If the edges of the door are around the centre of the front edge of the sides, then it's half-overlay (you see that in kitchens where two doors are hinged off the one partition). If the doors sit between the sides and are flush with the front edge of the sides, then it's inset. You'll see those three terms when you're shopping for hinges, so you can make sure to get the right ones. I don't think it's possible to make a zero clearance inset hinge because of the distance the door would have to move to clear the sides.

Good luck with it. The only other solution I can think of is to reduce your drawer width.

chambezio
20th March 2014, 12:44 PM
Usually with using those type of hinges, to have a drawer behind the doors you have to put a "panel" on the side of the cabinet. In effect you have to put a "30mm panel" in for the drawer runners to carry the drawer. You can't neatly or effectively let the hinge into the cupboard side. Another point that you may not have considered is a knob for the drawer. You need enough room behind the door to clear the depth of the knob. This means that the drawer will have to be a lot less than the depth of the cupboard.
The pictures show a "30mm panel" to clear the hinge.
The picture isn't especially clear but I think you can figure out what I am trying to say

Wok
20th March 2014, 03:31 PM
That is awesome guys, thanks so much. I've gotten around the problem of a knob for the drawer by having holes as finger pulls. It looks surprisingly ok.

There are no runners on the drawer. (I couldn't find 150mm runners for any sort of reasonable price).

I reckon those 165 deg hinges will solve my problem. I'll post a pic when I get it done.

Thanks a million

Glenn.Visca
20th March 2014, 05:23 PM
Check Lincoln Sentry ... They are distributors of Blum (well ... In Victoria anyway ). They are also FAR cheaper than buying from other more general (and big and green) hardware outlets.

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Wok
20th March 2014, 05:36 PM
Thanks Glen, I just got your message after I'd found Lincoln in Fyshwick!